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NeoGAF in shambles (now back, no OT discussion, statement from Evilore)

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GribbleGrunger said:
Soundwave said:

Yes the accuser herself apparently has told Kotaku in an interview that after the shower incident she proceeded to have a "physical relationship" with this Malka guy and they then broke up around E3. Her story sounds pretty fishy if that's the case. 

I wonder if he will turn around and try to sue her for damages. 

Right, so the questions I presented were actually relevent to the discussion. AGAIN, I'm not jumping the gun here but this is at least some new information. I said: We have to ask why it is her boyfriend left her. If he knew she was sleeping in the same hotel room as this guy then it must be just because he got in the shower with her. For me, this was unlikely, unless he too was an asshole, so I summised he probably didn't know she was sleeping in the same hotel room. This would be why she made menion of her 'being drunk' and 'she didn't cheat'. It sounded like something you would say to cover your back for doing something you regret. It was just an 'assumption' and wasn't meant in any way to suggest this is what actually happened. It was just an alternative viewpoint. WIth this new information, it appears I was right. 

I'm still going to wait for more info though but those who automatically assumed guilt based on accusation alone may perhaps have learned something. 

It's not really a crime to cheat, but putting that aside, her story doesn't really make sense. If she was so offended why would she then willingly proceed to have a relationship for several weeks with said person? IMO it sounds like they hooked up, had a relationship for a few weeks, it went south, and now she's bitter about it.



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Soundwave said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Do we have proof of this?

Yes the accuser herself apparently has told Kotaku in an interview that after the shower incident she proceeded to have a "physical relationship" with this Malka guy and they then broke up around E3. Her story sounds pretty fishy if that's the case. 

I wonder if he will turn around and try to sue her for damages. 

Indeed. The bottom line is, if she had a physical relationship with the guy after he allegedly assaulted her, then it looks very bad on her part. 

 

Soundwave said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Right, so the questions I presented were actually relevent to the discussion. AGAIN, I'm not jumping the gun here but this is at least some new information. I said: We have to ask why it is her boyfriend left her. If he knew she was sleeping in the same hotel room as this guy then it must be just because he got in the shower with her. For me, this was unlikely, unless he too was an asshole, so I summised he probably didn't know she was sleeping in the same hotel room. This would be why she made menion of her 'being drunk' and 'she didn't cheat'. It sounded like something you would say to cover your back for doing something you regret. It was just an 'assumption' and wasn't meant in any way to suggest this is what actually happened. It was just an alternative viewpoint. WIth this new information, it appears I was right. 

I'm still going to wait for more info though but those who automatically assumed guilt based on accusation alone may perhaps have learned something. 

It's not really a crime to cheat, but putting that aside, her story doesn't really make sense. If she was so offended why would she then willingly proceed to have a relationship for several weeks with said person? IMO it sounds like they hooked up, had a relationship for a few weeks, it went south, and now she's bitter about it.

Yes.



                                                                                                                                            

Neogaf being down for so long is bad. There is loads of great content on that site.



JWeinCom said:
brendude13 said:

https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

I'd answer yes to most of the other points too.

Females attempt suicide twice as often as males. As with suicide deaths, rates of attempted suicide vary considerably among demographic groups. Males are 4 times more likely than females to die by suicide. The ratio of suicide attempts to suicide death in youth is estimated to be about 25:1, compared to about 4:1 in the elderly.

The higher male suicide rate has nothing to do with discrimination, it's because they're more likely to use a firearm, which is a more effective method.

Well here in germany its the same and firearms are hard to get. And suicide with a firearm is rare. Its just that once a man makes the decision to kill himself he chooses an effective method of suicide.



Soundwave said:

It's not really a crime to cheat, but putting that aside, her story doesn't really make sense. If she was so offended why would she then willingly proceed to have a relationship for several weeks with said person? IMO it sounds like they hooked up, had a relationship for a few weeks, it went south, and now she's bitter about it.

Oh, absolutely, and that's not what I'm saying. Because the conversation was so one sided and people had already found Evilore guilty because of an 'accusation', and hated him anyway (compartmentalisation people. Look it up), I felt the need to look at it from HIS perspective and point out that 'interpretation' SHOULD go both ways, if that's how we're going to form an opinion. Clearly (if this is 100% true), she's not being honest and people owe Evilore an apology, whether he's as ass hole or not. 



 

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o_O.Q said:
monocle_layton said:

The issue is that I have no idea how this conversations reached to this when I never entered the feminism conversation. At this point, I honestly don't care about being right. 

 

I don't think you're idiotic or anything (not sure if you can say the same), but I'm truly lost as to what happened from my first comment to your response. What is it even over? 

 

because you were challenging me stating that feminism is an irrational ideology... i suppose i was just trying to see your perspective since you think the opposite, i suppose all i can say now is to ask you to sincerely look at what feminists are campaigning for now and ty to determine for yourself if their current stated goals are in anyway sensible or even desirable for men and women

 

i don't think they are and i have difficulty believing others do tbh... and in many cases like with the owner of neogaf... they do not, they simply use the ideology as a cloak to mask their true intentions which are sociopathic

 

uh... to those who keep saying that feminism is irrelevant here - the very reason neogaf is falling apart is that its owner claimed to uphold feminist values and then was outed as a misogynist

Aeolus brought a point that helped me understand you properly. When I mentioned feminism, I was referring to the overall movement, not the modern day feminism in western countries.

 

I will certainly say their priorities are in the wrong locations. Instead of doing ridiculous movements like the Pussy hat movement or whatever, it'd be nice if they focused on women in the US who actually need help...a lot of poor women can't afford hygiene products. I don't know about you, but I'd rather help the women who need certain items instead of wasting my time with silly rallies (pussy hat rally, slut rally, etc).

 

Feminism is good and has the ability to still be useful, but the approach many take nowadays is something I won't stand by.

 

I agree with you more, but at first I failed to see your original point



CGI-Quality said:
Soundwave said:

Yes the accuser herself apparently has told Kotaku in an interview that after the shower incident she proceeded to have a "physical relationship" with this Malka guy and they then broke up around E3. Her story sounds pretty fishy if that's the case. 

I wonder if he will turn around and try to sue her for damages. 

Indeed. The bottom line is, if she had a physical relationship with the guy after he allegedly assaulted her, then it looks very bad on her part. 

 

Soundwave said:

It's not really a crime to cheat, but putting that aside, her story doesn't really make sense. If she was so offended why would she then willingly proceed to have a relationship for several weeks with said person? IMO it sounds like they hooked up, had a relationship for a few weeks, it went south, and now she's bitter about it.

Yes.

If everying including the updates turn out to be true then this is a perfect reason as to why you don’t hook up with conflicted individuals, they can literally ruin your career or business, stay away.

and please don’t hop in the shower with a person unless invited, lovers or otherwise, gotta give him heat over that part.



I'm actually angry. Come on you 'cowards', the people who immediately found Evilore guilty, admit you could be wrong. Fucking disgraceful. 



 

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Just found this

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/qv384d/inside-the-sexual-misconduct-allegations-rocking-neogafs-last-48-hoursd?utm_source=wptwitterus



monocle_layton said:
o_O.Q said:

 

because you were challenging me stating that feminism is an irrational ideology... i suppose i was just trying to see your perspective since you think the opposite, i suppose all i can say now is to ask you to sincerely look at what feminists are campaigning for now and ty to determine for yourself if their current stated goals are in anyway sensible or even desirable for men and women

 

i don't think they are and i have difficulty believing others do tbh... and in many cases like with the owner of neogaf... they do not, they simply use the ideology as a cloak to mask their true intentions which are sociopathic

 

uh... to those who keep saying that feminism is irrelevant here - the very reason neogaf is falling apart is that its owner claimed to uphold feminist values and then was outed as a misogynist

Aeolus brought a point that helped me understand you properly. When I mentioned feminism, I was referring to the overall movement, not the modern day feminism in western countries.

 

I will certainly say their priorities are in the wrong locations. Instead of doing ridiculous movements like the Pussy hat movement or whatever, it'd be nice if they focused on women in the US who actually need help...a lot of poor women can't afford hygiene products. I don't know about you, but I'd rather help the women who need certain items instead of wasting my time with silly rallies (pussy hat rally, slut rally, etc).

 

Feminism is good and has the ability to still be useful, but the approach many take nowadays is something I won't stand by.

 

I agree with you more, but at first I failed to see your original point

 feminism is pretty much dead in terms of activity in all areas where it would be needed

in fact i would say that there is an inversely proportional relationship between women being treated poorly by a society and the presense of feminism

 

"it'd be nice if they focused on women in the US who actually need help"

 

well tbh i don't really believe that the aim is to help women at all (by the elements that actually have power, not by the random people who follow what they are told), but that's my opinion

 

"a lot of poor women can't afford hygiene products."

 

well that's what being poor means for both men and women

we define poor people as people who lack the money to buy things

 

the thing is that i don't disagree that women's interest shoud be looked out for, i totally stand behind that, but it must be done in a sensible logical way, not a way that is entirely guided by emotional rhetoric