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Sony Corp’s gaming chief on Friday said the virtual reality gaming market needs more competition to drive adoption of the technology and spur software development, adding the sheer size of Sony’s lead over rivals is cause for discomfort.

Sony’s VR headset has built a dominant position in the nascent market since going on sale last year, undercutting competitors on price and drawing on its sales of 60 million PlayStation 4 consoles, to which the headset is tethered.

“I‘m not entirely comfortable being the market leader in VR by such a margin that seems to be happening right now,” Andrew House, chief executive of Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc, said in an interview.

“With such a brand new category you want a variety of platforms all doing well to create that rising tide and create the audience.”

Sony has sold more than 500,000 headsets in the three months through June, showed data from IDC, giving it an “unmatched” lead over rivals such Facebook Inc’s Oculus Rift and HTC Corp’s Vive, the researcher said.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-sony-playstation/vr-needs-more-competition-to-build-audience-top-player-sony-says-idUKKCN1BX10M

seems pretty healthy, more than I was expecting. Not sure about the lineup for the rest of the year beside GT Sport, but looks like it may have a good holiday



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yeah its been interesting that since day 0 Sony has been quite open to VR as an industry platform needing to succeed, and not only just their own. And they are right.
Im honestly quite impressed by PSVR. some of the experiences are genuinely quite magical.

Look forward to seeing what their EU studios are working on for VR and whether Santa Monica really does indeed have a VR game in development.



You cannot complain that there is no competition on the market when you yourself completely isolate yourself from it. You were the one completely splitting the market by tethering your device to your console. So either allow other HMDs to work with PS4 or bring your HMD to PC or shut the fuck up.

There is no competition on the market because you want it so and you god damn know it.



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This holiday is looking good for PSVR with the new bundles and GT Sport, Skyrim and Doom on the horizon. RE7 is also getting new DLC, Not a hero (free) and a new campaign End of Zoe with the release of the gold edition. Plenty of smaller games as well.

I'm currently playing the Solu Project which is quite good, survival/exploration on a NMS style planet. End Space is temporarily pulled from the store (something went wrong with esrb rating) but should be back soon, looks like an interesting space shooter. Next week Light tracer (puzzle) and Voltron VR Chronicles. Plenty of choice.
https://vrgamesfor.com/platform/ps4/



vivster said:
You cannot complain that there is no competition on the market when you yourself completely isolate yourself from it. You were the one completely splitting the market by tethering your device to your console. So either allow other HMDs to work with PS4 or bring your HMD to PC or shut the fuck up.

There is no competition on the market because you want it so and you god damn know it.

Bringing PSVR to PC would only cause them to be more dominant and would make the situation worse.



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vivster said:
You cannot complain that there is no competition on the market when you yourself completely isolate yourself from it. You were the one completely splitting the market by tethering your device to your console. So either allow other HMDs to work with PS4 or bring your HMD to PC or shut the fuck up.

There is no competition on the market because you want it so and you god damn know it.

I think you need to think your argument through.

You're literally saying other devices aren't doing as well because PSVR isn't available on more devices therefore PSVR would get more sales...

His entire point is that PSVR is getting TOO MUCH sales compared to the rest. Your idea just makes the problem worse. 



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Lawlight said:
vivster said:
You cannot complain that there is no competition on the market when you yourself completely isolate yourself from it. You were the one completely splitting the market by tethering your device to your console. So either allow other HMDs to work with PS4 or bring your HMD to PC or shut the fuck up.

There is no competition on the market because you want it so and you god damn know it.

Bringing PSVR to PC would only cause them to be more dominant and would make the situation worse.

 

ArchangelMadzz said:
vivster said:
You cannot complain that there is no competition on the market when you yourself completely isolate yourself from it. You were the one completely splitting the market by tethering your device to your console. So either allow other HMDs to work with PS4 or bring your HMD to PC or shut the fuck up.

There is no competition on the market because you want it so and you god damn know it.

I think you need to think your argument through.

You're literally saying other devices aren't doing as well because PSVR isn't available on more devices therefore PSVR would get more sales...

His entire point is that PSVR is getting TOO MUCH sales compared to the rest. Your idea just makes the problem worse. 

Bringing PSVR to PC would mean millions of new consumers entering the PC VR market which means demand for content will increase. With increased content, more consumers will come and competition on the hardware will increase.

His point is in essence that even with PSVR the market is too small and as such not enough content is produced. He wants simply more content and more HMDs on the market for VR to increase as a whole and in turn increase their profit. Bringing PSVR to PC will grow the market. Not by a large margin but as a start.



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vivster said:
Lawlight said:

Bringing PSVR to PC would only cause them to be more dominant and would make the situation worse.

 

ArchangelMadzz said:

I think you need to think your argument through.

You're literally saying other devices aren't doing as well because PSVR isn't available on more devices therefore PSVR would get more sales...

His entire point is that PSVR is getting TOO MUCH sales compared to the rest. Your idea just makes the problem worse. 

Bringing PSVR to PC would mean millions of new consumers entering the PC VR market which means demand for content will increase. With increased content, more consumers will come and competition on the hardware will increase.

His point is in essence that even with PSVR the market is too small and as such not enough content is produced. He wants simply more content and more HMDs on the market for VR to increase as a whole and in turn increase their profit. Bringing PSVR to PC will grow the market. Not by a large margin but as a start.

No it isn't. His point is that PSVR is selling very well but the others need to sell well too. 

The fact that PSVR has so many units out there not even including the extra 500k units this thread is referring to is enough to warrent a big demand for content. And there are tons of VR games even big games, the price of the others is very high and that's what is putting consumers off. 

PSVR going to PC will just mean PSVR gets more sales and the others struggle EVEN MORE because there is a cheaper option. 



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ArchangelMadzz said:
vivster said:

 

Bringing PSVR to PC would mean millions of new consumers entering the PC VR market which means demand for content will increase. With increased content, more consumers will come and competition on the hardware will increase.

His point is in essence that even with PSVR the market is too small and as such not enough content is produced. He wants simply more content and more HMDs on the market for VR to increase as a whole and in turn increase their profit. Bringing PSVR to PC will grow the market. Not by a large margin but as a start.

No it isn't. His point is that PSVR is selling very well but the others need to sell well too. 

The fact that PSVR has so many units out there not even including the extra 500k units this thread is referring to is enough to warrent a big demand for content. And there are tons of VR games even big games, the price of the others is very high and that's what is putting consumers off. 

PSVR going to PC will just mean PSVR gets more sales and the others struggle EVEN MORE because there is a cheaper option. 

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

What does he care how well the PCVR market is doing when his VR is selling gangbusters? Sony is mainly concerned about one thing, and that is their own business. Their business is slow because there isn't enough content because VR is struggling to appeal to the mass market. To appeal to the mass market VR needs to offer experiences that they can't get anywhere else and VR needs to be established as a mainstream medium. All this comes back to content. More content = more potential customers. Imagine if Netflix decides to produce all their new shows for VR. Suddenly the donsumer is there and VR is in everyone's awareness because there is now more content that people would actually like to see.

So why isn't there more content and why isn't Sony happy if their HMDs are selling so well? Because Sony doesn't make money through hardware, but software. More software means more bucks for them. It also brings more people into their eco system which is all they really want. So how do you get more content? You open your market to more content which will increase consumers, which will increase demand, which will increase content, which will increase the public image of VR, which will increase Sony's profits. And that's what they want.

Don't try to tell me they're concerned that other VR companies are not making enough money. They aren't complaining that they're making too much money, they're complaining that they're not making enough because the competitors aren't doing free marketing for them by having strong sales of their own.



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its the old argument that we need games, sony had some good ideas with just their demo disk on how to use the vr and tv screen as 2 separate screens and should support it more but all 3 platforms need to stop fighting for exclusives and work together to get vr more games.

Unfortunately its the way Sony always go with their non norm console gaming hardware and it dies out with lack of support (ie psp, vita psvr). dont get me wrong, i'm not fanboy bashing - i bought and love them all and to date re7 in vr is one of the best games i've ever played - walking into the main hall room and seeing the size of it was amazing as was the first moment i got the pistol and aimed it.