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offline said:
OTBWY said:

What is the main reason then?

I'm sure you've heard about the GOP tax bill, which has been dominating headlines for the past few weeks. The decision to lower corporate rates will have a huge impact on certain industries. The result is a rotation from tech stocks to other sectors like financials. The plunge in Nintendo's stock price is not an isolated event. If you take a look at the stock prices of other major game companies like Activsion Blizzard or Take Two, you'll notice a similar drop within the same timespan.

It wouldn't affect the Japanese stock exchange lol. Zero effect. It was absolutely the Animal Crossing news. Which is why Nintendo is already recovering since new was released that it would start publishing games in China. That and Mario Run is the top selling game on iOS in 2017.




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OTBWY said:
offline said:

I'm sure you've heard about the GOP tax bill, which has been dominating headlines for the past few weeks. The decision to lower corporate rates will have a huge impact on certain industries. The result is a rotation from tech stocks to other sectors like financials. The plunge in Nintendo's stock price is not an isolated event. If you take a look at the stock prices of other major game companies like Activsion Blizzard or Take Two, you'll notice a similar drop within the same timespan.

It wouldn't affect the Japanese stock exchange lol. Zero effect. It was absolutely the Animal Crossing news. Which is why Nintendo is already recovering since new was released that it would start publishing games in China. That and Mario Run is the top selling game on iOS in 2017.

It's hard to take you seriously when you choose to ignore simple facts. Of course the GOP tax bill has an effect on overseas stock markets. Here are a few articles to make it easier for you to understand.


http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-tax-reform-bill-driving-stock-market-crazy-2017-11
Trump Tax Reform Bill Driving Stock Market Crazy
"Tech — While the selling in this space on Wednesday may have come as a surprise to some, it makes sense when you consider that the sector has the third-lowest tax rate out of any industry, according to data compiled by S&P Global. That means companies in the group have less to gain from a corporate tax cut, and investors are recognizing that by pulling money and allocating it elsewhere."

https://www.ft.com/content/c63761db-55e1-39ff-8f4c-007406b76ea0
Tech stocks sell-off continues in Asia Pacific
"Asia Pacific equities dipped on Thursday as a sell-off for technology stocks on Wall Street carried over into the region."

https://www.ft.com/content/f45648c2-22f4-32a3-a1b5-00fe8de6d3b9
Tech stocks sell-off reaches Europe
"Technology stocks are under pressure after the sell-off in the sector that began on Wall Street overnight reached Europe."



offline said:
OTBWY said:

It wouldn't affect the Japanese stock exchange lol. Zero effect. It was absolutely the Animal Crossing news. Which is why Nintendo is already recovering since new was released that it would start publishing games in China. That and Mario Run is the top selling game on iOS in 2017.

It's hard to take you seriously when you choose to ignore simple facts. Of course the GOP tax bill has an effect on overseas stock markets. Here are a few articles to make it easier for you to understand.


http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-tax-reform-bill-driving-stock-market-crazy-2017-11
Trump Tax Reform Bill Driving Stock Market Crazy
"Tech — While the selling in this space on Wednesday may have come as a surprise to some, it makes sense when you consider that the sector has the third-lowest tax rate out of any industry, according to data compiled by S&P Global. That means companies in the group have less to gain from a corporate tax cut, and investors are recognizing that by pulling money and allocating it elsewhere."

https://www.ft.com/content/c63761db-55e1-39ff-8f4c-007406b76ea0
Tech stocks sell-off continues in Asia Pacific
"Asia Pacific equities dipped on Thursday as a sell-off for technology stocks on Wall Street carried over into the region."

https://www.ft.com/content/f45648c2-22f4-32a3-a1b5-00fe8de6d3b9
Tech stocks sell-off reaches Europe
"Technology stocks are under pressure after the sell-off in the sector that began on Wall Street overnight reached Europe."

I find it funny how desperately you want it to be like that, but let me let you in on something. The Nikkei is up. So are most European markets btw (even though it's a sidestep). Within 5 days too. Nice try, but it was Animal Crossing.

Not even my own words: It's literally your word, against the word of a economics PHD - Game industry consultancy CEO.




OTBWY said:
offline said:

It's hard to take you seriously when you choose to ignore simple facts. Of course the GOP tax bill has an effect on overseas stock markets. Here are a few articles to make it easier for you to understand.


http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-tax-reform-bill-driving-stock-market-crazy-2017-11
Trump Tax Reform Bill Driving Stock Market Crazy
"Tech — While the selling in this space on Wednesday may have come as a surprise to some, it makes sense when you consider that the sector has the third-lowest tax rate out of any industry, according to data compiled by S&P Global. That means companies in the group have less to gain from a corporate tax cut, and investors are recognizing that by pulling money and allocating it elsewhere."

https://www.ft.com/content/c63761db-55e1-39ff-8f4c-007406b76ea0
Tech stocks sell-off continues in Asia Pacific
"Asia Pacific equities dipped on Thursday as a sell-off for technology stocks on Wall Street carried over into the region."

https://www.ft.com/content/f45648c2-22f4-32a3-a1b5-00fe8de6d3b9
Tech stocks sell-off reaches Europe
"Technology stocks are under pressure after the sell-off in the sector that began on Wall Street overnight reached Europe."

I find it funny how desperately you want it to be like that, but let me let you in on something. The Nikkei is up. So are most European markets btw (even though it's a sidestep). Within 5 days too. Nice try, but it was Animal Crossing.

Not even my own words: It's literally your word, against the word of a economics PHD - Game industry consultancy CEO.

I don't think the market pays as close attention as we do to the game info. Sales > everything else. 



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

megaman79 said:
OTBWY said:

I find it funny how desperately you want it to be like that, but let me let you in on something. The Nikkei is up. So are most European markets btw (even though it's a sidestep). Within 5 days too. Nice try, but it was Animal Crossing.

Not even my own words: It's literally your word, against the word of a economics PHD - Game industry consultancy CEO.

I don't think the market pays as close attention as we do to the game info. Sales > everything else. 

Especially since games typically are seen as part of the entertainment industry rather than part of the tech industry. What Offline has posted doesn't even correlate with what happened to Nintendo's stock for a few days.




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OTBWY said:
megaman79 said:

I don't think the market pays as close attention as we do to the game info. Sales > everything else. 

Especially since games typically are seen as part of the entertainment industry rather than part of the tech industry. What Offline has posted doesn't even correlate with what happened to Nintendo's stock for a few days.

He was stating that investors are pulling money out of companies that might not benefit as much from the tax bill and putting it into companies that are considered heavily taxed (didn't know those still existed with all the loopholes).



sethnintendo said:
OTBWY said:

Especially since games typically are seen as part of the entertainment industry rather than part of the tech industry. What Offline has posted doesn't even correlate with what happened to Nintendo's stock for a few days.

He was stating that investors are pulling money out of companies that might not benefit as much from the tax bill and putting it into companies that are considered heavily taxed (didn't know those still existed with all the loopholes).

It has nothing to do with Nintendo's stock dipping for a few days though. I can't keep referencing Serkan's tweet because I have done it a million times I feel.




OTBWY said:
sethnintendo said:

He was stating that investors are pulling money out of companies that might not benefit as much from the tax bill and putting it into companies that are considered heavily taxed (didn't know those still existed with all the loopholes).

It has nothing to do with Nintendo's stock dipping for a few days though. I can't keep referencing Serkan's tweet because I have done it a million times I feel.

Well that's just stupid investors.  They keep thinking mobile is make or break with Nintendo when Nintendo is actually just using mobile to promote their real games on their systems.  Would it be nice to have a break away hit like Pokemon Go was a year back or so?  Sure but current investors care too much about Nintendo's approach to mobile when they should be focusing on Switch sales.



sethnintendo said:
OTBWY said:

It has nothing to do with Nintendo's stock dipping for a few days though. I can't keep referencing Serkan's tweet because I have done it a million times I feel.

Well that's just stupid investors.  They keep thinking mobile is make or break with Nintendo when Nintendo is actually just using mobile to promote their real games on their systems.  Would it be nice to have a break away hit like Pokemon Go was a year back or so?  Sure but current investors care too much about Nintendo's approach to mobile when they should be focusing on Switch sales.

Especially when mobile haven't made that much money for Nintendo, including Pokemon Go.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

bdbdbd said:
sethnintendo said:

Well that's just stupid investors.  They keep thinking mobile is make or break with Nintendo when Nintendo is actually just using mobile to promote their real games on their systems.  Would it be nice to have a break away hit like Pokemon Go was a year back or so?  Sure but current investors care too much about Nintendo's approach to mobile when they should be focusing on Switch sales.

Especially when mobile haven't made that much money for Nintendo, including Pokemon Go.

They have made much money actually. Just not the amount they were expecting (for some at least). It doesn't change the fact that Mario Run for example was this years top iOS game.