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Bandorr said:
Carl2291 said:
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That last feature would be fascinating. It gives you the option to ban from the forum, not the website. Although it may encourage poor behavior. You can troll forum A knowing that if you get banned, you still have forum B C D etc.

Poor behavior will exist no matter the measures put in place. However, that feature will accomodate better monitoring and pinpoint who shouldn't be posting where more efficiently.

 

jonager said:
am I the only one to notice that we get a thread like this one every year? If you don't like political threads don't click on them.

I agree with your sentiments. At the same time, we still need some adjustments.



                                                                                                                                            

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CGI-Quality said:
jonager said:
am I the only one to notice that we get a thread like this one every year? If you don't like political threads don't click on them.

I agree with your sentiments. At the same time, we still need some adjustments.

That's all the opposing side ever wanted. Adjustments, not radical changes. 



Carl2291 said:
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I proposed these changes in mod chat, which I think would make the forums both easier to navigate and easier to moderate. 4 different forums, housing different kinds of discussion. Cut the fat. We keep the Forum Preferences Filter feature of the site, so you can check the boxes of what you do and don't want to see.

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Gaming - General Videogame Discussion, Nintendo Discussion, PlayStation Discussion, Xbox Discussion, PC Discussion

Sales - Can be one consolidated forum

Website - Site Discussion, Announcements and Feedback

Off Topic - General Discussion, Political Discussion, NSFW Discussion

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Make Political and NSFW Discussion so that they aren't automatically selected in the forum filters for all members. If you wish to participate in these forums, it's entirely your own decision to tick the box. Furthermore, moderators and administrators should have the powers to remove a members access to specific forums as a form of moderation.

Yeah all this sounds great and the best solution regarding the Political Topics (Just got to bring Filtering to Front Page first) and I agree with cutting some of the useless topics out completely and that removing access sounds nice too



I don't mind people talking and arguing and fighting on political threads. However, fully removing them from the front page wouldn't be seen in good eyes. I do agree, however, that people can turn off which kind of topics they want to see on the front page. I also think that political threads should be much more moderated without limiting freedom of expression.



LurkerJ said:
CGI-Quality said:

I agree with your sentiments. At the same time, we still need some adjustments.

That's all the opposing side ever wanted. Adjustments, not radical changes. 

No matter what words you choose to describe it, most agree that changes need to be made. 



                                                                                                                                            

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Mr_No said:
I don't mind people talking and arguing and fighting on political threads. However, fully removing them from the front page wouldn't be seen in good eyes. I do agree, however, that people can turn off which kind of topics they want to see on the front page. I also think that political threads should be much more moderated without limiting freedom of expression.

How would you go about that?  What things would you moderate that aren't moderated today?  We have to be careful not to let our own political views influence our moderations.



Mr_No said:
I don't mind people talking and arguing and fighting on political threads. However, fully removing them from the front page wouldn't be seen in good eyes. I do agree, however, that people can turn off which kind of topics they want to see on the front page. I also think that political threads should be much more moderated without limiting freedom of expression.

We actually try. Sometimes, we let borderline comments go (as we do with most topics), but with Political ones, we will lock a thread before moderating anyone in particular cases. At least, that's my way of doing it. However, the problem with "freedom of expression" is that it will allow some users to think they can get away with saying anything they please (and this usually turns into outright insults [sometimes disturbing] towards other posters). That is where I, on my own, draw the line!

* waits for Miguel *



                                                                                                                                            

Bandorr said:

That last feature would be fascinating. It gives you the option to ban from the forum, not the website. Although it may encourage poor behavior. You can troll forum A knowing that if you get banned, you still have forum B C D etc.

If a member is fine in Sony discussion but causing problems in Xbox and Nintendo discussion, wouldn't it be better to keep a potentially positive member of the community on the forum instead of removing them entirely because they can't keep shit together in "opposition" forums? 

The ban wouldn't just be from the specific forum, but from all places. When they return from the ban, we just restrict access to specific sub-forums.



Carl2291 said:
Bandorr said:

That last feature would be fascinating. It gives you the option to ban from the forum, not the website. Although it may encourage poor behavior. You can troll forum A knowing that if you get banned, you still have forum B C D etc.

If a member is fine in Sony discussion but causing problems in Xbox and Nintendo discussion, wouldn't it be better to keep a potentially positive member of the community on the forum instead of removing them entirely because they can't keep shit together in "opposition" forums? 

The ban wouldn't just be from the specific forum, but from all places. When they return from the ban, we just restrict access to specific sub-forums.

I don't like this idea at all to be honest, I think this is fine the way it is now. What you're suggesting would be essentially allowing people to go be an ass on a forum they don't care about (even if only once) without any consequences. Anyone who is an ass anywhere deserves a website ban for being an ass, period.

That, and I don't like that you didn't include Music and Movie discussion in off-topic, too.



mZuzek said:

I don't like this idea at all to be honest, I think this is fine the way it is now. What you're suggesting would be essentially allowing people to go be an ass on a forum they don't care about (even if only once) without any consequences. Anyone who is an ass anywhere deserves a website ban for being an ass, period.

That, and I don't like that you didn't include Music and Movie discussion in off-topic, too.

Didn't you read what I said? I said the ban would be site-wide, not just from the specific forum. Upon return from the ban, be it 1 week or 2 weeks or 20 days, they would have no access to (as an example) Nintendo discussion but other areas of the site would be open to them, as it is right now after a ban.

Music and Movies doesn't really need a dedicated forum, it can easily be placed under general off topic (as can sports, tech or whatever else). Politics and NSFW can be seperate sub-forums because of the controversial topics which may be discussed where people can choose to filter that out. This isn't too major though, just my own preference.