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FIT_Gamer on 12 August 2017
o_O.Q said:
FIT_Gamer said:

Once and while? lol It happens multiple times a year. Bat shit crazy white right wingers make up 73% of the terror incidents we've had in this country of over the last 16 years. Media generally just won't call it terrorism. 

that is false just youtube antifa for example

There have been 85 incidents, not including this one over the last 16 years that have been "violent extremist incident" a.k.a. terrorism. 62 of those by the far-right terroist. The remaining 23 by Islamic terrorist. 

The far right are a much bigger threat in this country than Islam. The fear mongoring media just pushes it the other way. 



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Azuren on 12 August 2017
FIT_Gamer said:
Slimebeast said:
The left is gonna milk this to no end and take advantage of the fact that for once in a very long while it was a white nationalist guy who commited a deadly terrorist act.

So many people are already indirectly accusing everyone at the rally for being responsible for the death by this car attack, which is nasty and dishonest and extremely hypocritical.

Once and while? lol It happens multiple times a year. Bat shit crazy white right wingers make up 73% of the terror incidents we've had in this country of over the last 16 years. Media generally just won't call it terrorism. 

I don't really see a whole lot of those. Most of what I've seen the past year is a bunch of BLMs attacking people peppered with a few good ol' fashion Islamic mob murders.



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TheLegendaryWolf on 12 August 2017
Slimebeast said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

^ Things were already a mess on both sides before that sub-human scumbag decided to aimlessly run over people.

Yes it indeed was a mess, but now after the fact that this subhuman maimed and killed these poor pedestrians, all the right wingers attending the rally are being protrayed as bloody murderers while the protestors will be portrayed like humanitarian heroes.

The issue lies in the fact that a significant portion of those on the right were infact part of, or posing as neo-nazis. The ever present "antifacist" counter protestors are by no definition heroes either, as they would probably participate in their trademarked "peaceful demonstrations" against anyone who leans even slightly right but I digress. 



outlawauron on 12 August 2017
FIT_Gamer said:
Well they released the drivers info.

Didn't we already know who it was? I remember seeing info about it a couple hours ago. Were there multiple cars?



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Slimebeast on 12 August 2017
Soundwave said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"He was going to do the whole "all sides/both sides" thing "

are you denying that both sides need to be condemned? so all of the people that the violent protestors on the left have injured and maimed mean absolutely nothing to you?

talk about letting tribalism cause you to lose objectivity, good grief

I think the "both sides" equivalency is gross. There is no "both sides" here as if they're some equal side of a coin. One side is fighting (a lost battle) for racial supremacy. The other side is protesting against their bigotry. 

White supremasists are pieces of shit who's sad, pathetic version of America will never come back unless they invent a time machine, which they lack the I.Q. to develop in the first place. 

This isn't some debate where it's like "OK black people why don't you try being slaves again or honestly make an honest effort to pretend like it's 1950 again ... who knows maybe you'll like it and in exchange white supremasists will try wearing Air Jordans and not being so mean! There! See! Both sides get something! Isn't this so much better than arguing?". Like what the fuck. This isn't two children arguing in the back seat of a car. 

By "both sides" he probably didn't mean the peaceful demonstrators, but he refered to both sides of the type of protestors who were condoning violence and hate, which on the leftist side means communists and Antifa and such very nasty stuff.



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monocle_layton on 12 August 2017
NATO said:
Soundwave said:

No, but a LEADER has a moral obligation in times like this to lead. Something president Spray Tan won't do and even people in his own party are not oblivious to his cowardice:

Yes, because people like yourself would think any differently about him if he had said exactly what you wanted him to say, right?

I honestly wouldn't, but what do you expect? One action isn't enough. Unless Trump did something extreme, this is one of many actions to make people decide whether he's a good president or not.

Slimebeast said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

^ Things were already a mess on both sides before that sub-human scumbag decided to aimlessly run over people.

Yes it indeed was a mess, but now after the fact that this subhuman maimed and killed these poor pedestrians, all the right wingers attending the rally are being protrayed as bloody murderers while the protestors will be portrayed like humanitarian heroes.

I'll be fine with mocking the right wingers. After all, there were many holding nazi flags and being racist assholes. 

You're a conservative - that's perfectly fine, but I'm pretty sure you aren't racist.

 

Regardless of the protestors (can't say much as idk their side too well), many of the neonazis in attendance are doing nothing but causing trouble.

 

Let's forget what 'they' are saying. In a situation like this, seeing hundreds of racists gather in AMERICA is disheartening. We may disagree on immigration, war, or anything else, but at the end of the day most users draw the line on pure racism.

 

Condemning the evil in both sides is needed, but this car attack is as despicable as the Nice attack. The only difference is that we're fortunate today's incident didn't involve a truck. :/ 

Azuren said:
FIT_Gamer said:

Once and while? lol It happens multiple times a year. Bat shit crazy white right wingers make up 73% of the terror incidents we've had in this country of over the last 16 years. Media generally just won't call it terrorism. 

I don't really see a whole lot of those. Most of what I've seen the past year is a bunch of BLMs attacking people peppered with a few good ol' fashion Islamic mob murders.

I don't think islamic mob murders is even an issue anywhere besides Pakistan and India. Most of the ones I see are from there. 



Slimebeast on 12 August 2017
TheLegendaryWolf said:
Slimebeast said:

Yes it indeed was a mess, but now after the fact that this subhuman maimed and killed these poor pedestrians, all the right wingers attending the rally are being protrayed as bloody murderers while the protestors will be portrayed like humanitarian heroes.

The issue lies in the fact that a significant portion of those on the right were infact part of, or posing as neo-nazis. The ever present "antifacist" counter protestors are by no definition heroes either, as they would probably participate in their trademarked "peaceful demonstrations" against anyone who leans even slightly right but I digress. 

Yes, but even if the portion of neo-nazis on the right wing side was let's say 10%, all the protestors on the right wing side will now be painted with the same broad pencil.



outlawauron on 12 August 2017
FIT_Gamer said:
Slimebeast said:
The left is gonna milk this to no end and take advantage of the fact that for once in a very long while it was a white nationalist guy who commited a deadly terrorist act.

So many people are already indirectly accusing everyone at the rally for being responsible for the death by this car attack, which is nasty and dishonest and extremely hypocritical.

Once and while? lol It happens multiple times a year. Bat shit crazy white right wingers make up 73% of the terror incidents we've had in this country of over the last 16 years. Media generally just won't call it terrorism. 

uhhhh, what?! This isn't close to true. Here, take a look.

They even organize it by type.



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Soundwave on 12 August 2017
Slimebeast said:
TheLegendaryWolf said:

The issue lies in the fact that a significant portion of those on the right were infact part of, or posing as neo-nazis. The ever present "antifacist" counter protestors are by no definition heroes either, as they would probably participate in their trademarked "peaceful demonstrations" against anyone who leans even slightly right but I digress. 

Yes, but even if the portion of neo-nazis on the right wing side was let's say 10%, all the protestors on the right wing side will now be painted with the same broad pencil.

As opposed to the friendly, good guy Nazis that showed up on the "right" side today? 

Anyone who shows up marching side by side with Nazis, Klan members, etc. deserves to be tarred, feathered and publically shamed. 



FIT_Gamer on 12 August 2017
Azuren said:
FIT_Gamer said:

Once and while? lol It happens multiple times a year. Bat shit crazy white right wingers make up 73% of the terror incidents we've had in this country of over the last 16 years. Media generally just won't call it terrorism. 

I don't really see a whole lot of those. Most of what I've seen the past year is a bunch of BLMs attacking people peppered with a few good ol' fashion Islamic mob murders.

The internet is magical place. With an abundance of information. There have been mulitiple attacks already this year by White right-wingers on both muslims and jews.