| Dark_Lord_2008 said: An employer does not need to state reasons for firing an employee. Business is just business and it is just capitalism. Google is a business and it is a capitalist system. The employees making noise, should remain silent or else they can be fired for being disruptive. |
"It is just capitalism" is never a good reason for anything ever.
The paper didn't seem to be offensive at all. I read the link posted above me. Odd that google would fire James
| Dark_Lord_2008 said: An employer does not need to state reasons for firing an employee. Business is just business and it is just capitalism. Google is a business and it is a capitalist system. The employees making noise, should remain silent or else they can be fired for being disruptive. |
If the employee had come out and publicly done what he did, then it is more cut/dry in your responce.
But from what I understand, this was an internal memo that another employee spread out to the rest of the world. The memo is his thought and ideas about what he see as a diversity problem in Google. Essentially he went to his superiors and told them of a problem he sees and get fired for it becaue someone else leaked this memo to the press? That is not OK.
And Android sucks too.
I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.
Another reason why I wouldn't work for Google if other options exists.
The Memo wasn't wrong from my viewpoint, and it was internal, so the firing is against law on political discrimination. Google will probably lose some money but nothing really relevant...
If it was opposite situation of a black gay woman being fired from a conservative company due to being too liberal them we would see flames.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
irstupid said:
If the employee had come out and publicly done what he did, then it is more cut/dry in your responce. But from what I understand, this was an internal memo that another employee spread out to the rest of the world. The memo is his thought and ideas about what he see as a diversity problem in Google. Essentially he went to his superiors and told them of a problem he sees and get fired for it becaue someone else leaked this memo to the press? That is not OK. |
And that is what oppresion, censorship and biases does...
Since we don't want a problem to be uncovered or want to correct it we will just fire the person who said it.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| StarDoor said: Unbelievable that people are actually defending Google in this situation. |
Google had only two bad choices in this situation. No matter what Google could have done in this situation, one side would have complained anyway. From Google's perspective, it was a case of minimizing the damage. I certainly don't agree with the decision, but at the same time I can see why Google chose to do it.
Hmm, I'm out of the loop on this. I'll have to read the memo when I get back from work.
| VGPolyglot said: Hmm, I'm out of the loop on this. I'll have to read the memo when I get back from work. |
Memo talks about how google ostracize non-progressive individuals and create a PC culture where dissidensy is shamed.
Then talks about how one part of the reason there are more men in engineering fields and top management can be traced to biology and that not 100% is social construction.
Talks about non-discrimanatory ways to improve diversity and safety on the company.
Basically the issue is he internally complained about things the upper management doesn't want to hear about.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| the-pi-guy said: I really don't get the point. What's so wrong with initiatives to increase diversity? Whether something is bad for business, doesn't matter. It's ulimately the company's decision. Considering this is google, I highly doubt it's actually hurting their business all that much... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-diversity-makes-us-smarter/ There's actually a lot of studies that show diversity is actually a powerful tool. It actually improves the majority as well. So if Google is hiring a slightly less qualified employee to increase diversity, that might end up being the better hire, because it'll also improve everyone else's performance. There are a lot of studies that support that. Was the memo right? Not really. Was Google right in firing him? I don't know. The answer is probably though. Who knows how keeping him under their employ would have affected his coworkers, I don't think it would have been positive for Google. |
Read the memo and you'll se that very few of it talks about hiring.
And on the firing would you them accept that companies would fire anyone that isn't pro-capitalism or conservative because that is against the bottomline of any company, which is make money for shareholders? Or we can only openly discrimanate and terminate the ones that doesn't agree with one point of view?
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
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