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BraLoD said:
routsounmanman said:

In your magical dream world, you can obviously house XBone or PS4 hardware within a tablet? I swear people deliberately forget that Switch is a handheld; or at least a hybrid.

My magical dream world? And where the fuck I said something like that? Don't make assumptions, specially being that rude.

He wants Nintendo to not get downgraded ports compared to consoles, then ask for Nintendo to do similar hardware to those, that's about it.

I was rude? It's not an assumption. YOU DID say that Nintendo should offer better hardware, while competely ignoring the fact that it CANNOT HAPPEN. It simply baffles me that people cry for Nintendo about Switch having obviously weaker hardware than PS4 / Xbone while not even acknowledging the fact that Switch is a portable! It's like crying about Volvo having a prohibitely high price tag! WELL DUH!

And don't even get me started on the notion that if Nintendo were to release powerful hardware, third parties would pay attention. We saw it during the GC days. Moreover, weak hardware is not an excuse to be so absent on (especially a critical commercial success like the Switch) the platform! Even Vita had many third party exclusive attempts, at least until it floundered!

No excuses.

PS: In the end, I simply don't care, especially for EA. The few 3rd parties caring for (Atlus etc) are on Nintendo anyways, and I have learned not to expect for more. PC it is for the rest.



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Rem87919394 said:
BraLoD said:

My magical dream world? And where the fuck I said something like that? Don't make assumptions, specially being that rude.

He wants Nintendo to not get downgraded ports compared to consoles, then ask for Nintendo to do similar hardware to those, that's about it.

BraLoD couldn't have said it better myself. Can't complain about Nintendo getting downgraded ports when your system is considerably weaker. Weaker systems get weaker ports 

On my PC I have a 4k monitor, and dual 980GTX, MILES ahead of PS4 and XBone, even Pro and XBX! Yet, all games get downgraded to the lowest denominator.



routsounmanman said:
BraLoD said:

Then Nintendo should stop making considerably weaker hardware than those where those games are build for.

In your magical dream world, you can obviously house XBone or PS4 hardware within a tablet? I swear people deliberately forget that Switch is a handheld; or at least a hybrid.

BraLoD is correct.  

Who told Nintendo to make a tablet/hybrid to begin with?  I swear people deliberately forget that Nintendo has the decision to make a system equal or greater than their competitors.

This is nothing more than the result of Nintendo's decision, which anybody could've seen a mile away, when making a significally weaker console than the competitors in which developers are more accustomed to.



V-r0cK said:
routsounmanman said:

In your magical dream world, you can obviously house XBone or PS4 hardware within a tablet? I swear people deliberately forget that Switch is a handheld; or at least a hybrid.

BraLoD is correct.  

Who told Nintendo to make a tablet/hybrid to begin with?  I swear people deliberately forget that Nintendo has the decision to make a system equal or greater than their competitors.

This is nothing more than the result of Nintendo's decision, which anybody could've seen a mile away, when making a significally weaker console than the competitors in which developers are more accustomed to.

You guys cannot be more simple sometimes, feels like your argument about everything is always the same, powah. Nintendo not taking the decision of making another generic third party box is what is gonna make Switch a huge success to begging with, so that was undoubtly the right decision. 

The user that complained about a downgraded port wasn't talking about graphics so all this converstaion about "blame them for the weaker hardware" is pretty out of place.



V-r0cK said:
routsounmanman said:

In your magical dream world, you can obviously house XBone or PS4 hardware within a tablet? I swear people deliberately forget that Switch is a handheld; or at least a hybrid.

BraLoD is correct.  

Who told Nintendo to make a tablet/hybrid to begin with?  I swear people deliberately forget that Nintendo has the decision to make a system equal or greater than their competitors.

This is nothing more than the result of Nintendo's decision, which anybody could've seen a mile away, when making a significally weaker console than the competitors in which developers are more accustomed to.

Now why would Nintendo release a powerful console that compete's directly with the PS4 and XB1? It could be the most powerful console of all times and 3rd parties would still be as skeptical as possible and instead of power they'll complain about the userbase not being up to their liking and not support it a la Wii U. Them making the Switch a portable home console in a way was the best route they could go as its unique and different enough to even attract a sizeable amount of non-Nintendo fans.



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BraLoD said:
Flilix said:
I hope Rocket League outsells FIFA 18 on Switch, maybe then they'll realise Switch players don't want a downgraded port.

Then Nintendo should stop making considerably weaker hardware than those where those games are build for.

Seriously. You guys don't get it. Dev's can't afford to put the time necessary to draw out all the power of the switch. 



Well I don't really think there are many games that can be made for console that can't for portable, but since I don't play much portable and like a big TV I can't say much.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Teeqoz said:
Mnementh said:

They were?

No, this doesn't work if you release one old port or something. The players that like EA-portfolio will get a console, if itgets all or most games, not if it gets one old port. There measure in a lot of expectations though. Players at this point expect to have all EA-games on Sony and no serious EA-support on Nintendo. But generally: if they release major parts of their portfolio, many gamers will lose their doubts.

Speaking of expectations: based on their stellar support of the 3DS I expected more from Atlus for Switch than this one SMT-announcement. If they not reinforce the trust of the gamers somewhere down the line, Atlus might lose potential on the Switch.

But EA has nothing to gain by splitting their fanbase. Heck, the ideal situation for EA would be if everyone who bought there games were on the same console - that way they could lower developing costs.

It doesn't make sense to release multiple games for a system, if all it does is move the already existing fanbase from one platform to the other, while at the same time costing more to develop. For it to make sense for EA, there has to be potential to expand the fanbase substantially enough.

And that is where Nintendo money have to go to incentivize devs to make a real effort on the system, release a good port at the same time, and if sales shows up the next interation they may decide themselves to launch.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

BraLoD said:
routsounmanman said:

I was rude? It's not an assumption. YOU DID say that Nintendo should offer better hardware, while competely ignoring the fact that it CANNOT HAPPEN. It simply baffles me that people cry for Nintendo about Switch having obviously weaker hardware than PS4 / Xbone while not even acknowledging the fact that Switch is a portable! It's like crying about Volvo having a prohibitely high price tag! WELL DUH!

And don't even get me started on the notion that if Nintendo were to release powerful hardware, third parties would pay attention. We saw it during the GC days. Moreover, weak hardware is not an excuse to be so absent on (especially a critical commercial success like the Switch) the platform! Even Vita had many third party exclusive attempts, at least until it floundered!

No excuses.

PS: In the end, I simply don't care, especially for EA. The few 3rd parties caring for (Atlus etc) are on Nintendo anyways, and I have learned not to expect for more. PC it is for the rest.

To start with, I don't care about EA or FIFA either.

Now, of course you were rude, you not only assumed an entire new line of thought from what I said and imposed it to me as if I've actually said it, which did not exist in my phrase (where I somehow said a tablet could or couldn't be more or less strong, I simply never touched that subject, at all), but you start your answer to me, that was not even talking to you, trying to mock me talking about a supossed magical dream world that I have, I don't even know where you pulled that out from, yes, you were rude, really rude.

I also never went on any of those subjects your post is touching, I never cried about the Switch power either, I also couldn't care less about the Switch as well, I don't intend to buy one, much less give excuses, again, I simply don't care.

Seriously, you are discussing with yourself about all of those subjects I never went over, neither I plan to here just because you started having a conversation with yourself about something else entirely, while quoting me for some reason.

Either you drop it or you'll keep talking to yourself.

Apparently being ironic in order to emphasize is being rude to you. Good day, sir, nothing more to say here.



routsounmanman said:
BraLoD said:

My magical dream world? And where the fuck I said something like that? Don't make assumptions, specially being that rude.

He wants Nintendo to not get downgraded ports compared to consoles, then ask for Nintendo to do similar hardware to those, that's about it.

I was rude? It's not an assumption. YOU DID say that Nintendo should offer better hardware, while competely ignoring the fact that it CANNOT HAPPEN. It simply baffles me that people cry for Nintendo about Switch having obviously weaker hardware than PS4 / Xbone while not even acknowledging the fact that Switch is a portable! It's like crying about Volvo having a prohibitely high price tag! WELL DUH!

And don't even get me started on the notion that if Nintendo were to release powerful hardware, third parties would pay attention. We saw it during the GC days. Moreover, weak hardware is not an excuse to be so absent on (especially a critical commercial success like the Switch) the platform! Even Vita had many third party exclusive attempts, at least until it floundered!

No excuses.

PS: In the end, I simply don't care, especially for EA. The few 3rd parties caring for (Atlus etc) are on Nintendo anyways, and I have learned not to expect for more. PC it is for the rest.

Wii and WiiU were also very low powered so it isn't like this is the first time.

Goodnightmoon said:
V-r0cK said:

BraLoD is correct.  

Who told Nintendo to make a tablet/hybrid to begin with?  I swear people deliberately forget that Nintendo has the decision to make a system equal or greater than their competitors.

This is nothing more than the result of Nintendo's decision, which anybody could've seen a mile away, when making a significally weaker console than the competitors in which developers are more accustomed to.

You guys cannot be more simple sometimes, feels like your argument about everything is always the same, powah. Nintendo not taking the decision of making another generic third party box is what is gonna make Switch a huge success to begging with, so that was undoubtly the right decision. 

The user that complained about a downgraded port wasn't talking about graphics so all this converstaion about "blame them for the weaker hardware" is pretty out of place.

To both... Fifa 14 on consoles launch had a missing feature on PS4 and PS4 were always the main seller of the game... and even with a gimped port it outsold X1 version... so stop with all the excuses for not buying 3rd party content on Nintendo and still demanding more to be released and not sold. Because we all hear how Nintendo is the best that there is and that no 3rd party is competent and how all their games are bad and generic. So why do you want them?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."