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germibobi said:

I am blaming Nintendo for playing it super safe and boring but people keep rewarding and praising. Instead of doing new IPs there is this quirky Mario game Odysey or something: what in world even is this? 

You seem to be under the illusion that a game has to be a new IP to be creative or new.

Mario Odessey is more mechanicaly distinct from its predecessors than any 2 major fps that have come out in the last few years

 

 

These games put their focus almost purely on the gameplay. Nintendo uses visuals to make mechanics more intuitive. If certain mechanics of the game stay the same, which is generally the case while staying in the same genera, it makes sense to reuse previous assets/characters, since the player already knows how to interact with them.

 

Nintendo only creates a new IP if they are actually creating a new type of game (ex: splatoon). As long as story does not comport a major part of the experience, that should be a model to be followed. 



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super_etecoon said:
Arms is safe? Splatoon is safe? Cel-shaded Link is safe? First-Person Metroid is safe? Nintendo takes huge risks with its IPs and with its hardware. Ever heard of that really safe bet called the WiiU? Or the Wii for that matter? These are bold risks that the company continues to take...and Nintendo fans don't just buy it because they slap a logo on it. Nintendo fans are fickle and have high expectations. We'll show up in droves if you give us a good game...and we'll forget you exist if you don't. But keep on keeping on with the victim mentality now that Nintendo is riding a good press wave.

I get your sentiment but I feel like Arms and Splatoon are going to sell regardless because as I said people buy Nintendo games in bunches especially if the console has sold well. And when those titles are part of a very limited catalogue of games they are bond to do well because people need to play something on the new system they just bought. Arms isn't even getting great reviews and I guarentee you it will sell a whole lot. Also as I mentioned in a previous post I find a game like Arms or Splatoon incredibly chidlish. Nintendo is catering so much to kids which is good strategy but I don't have to like it. Sony and Microsoft have games for kids but that's not their main focus. Even the new Zelda which is fantastic could have been more gritty.



PS4 launched with less features than the PS3 and mot the game they announced were so far into the future we still haven't seen some of them released.

PS4 sold on hype alone not it's launch lineup.

Nothing wrong with that, if you can market something that convinces people to buy it then all good for that company.



 

 

why is this thread getting serious responses?



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Awful topic. Every PlayStation console has had a shit launch lineup. Never seemed to stop them. Also does anyone remember Wii's launch lineup outside Wii Sports and Zelda? Switch already has 3 new IPs from Nintendo. Not since SNES have they launched with so many new IPs in the same year.



germibobi said:
super_etecoon said:
Arms is safe? Splatoon is safe? Cel-shaded Link is safe? First-Person Metroid is safe? Nintendo takes huge risks with its IPs and with its hardware. Ever heard of that really safe bet called the WiiU? Or the Wii for that matter? These are bold risks that the company continues to take...and Nintendo fans don't just buy it because they slap a logo on it. Nintendo fans are fickle and have high expectations. We'll show up in droves if you give us a good game...and we'll forget you exist if you don't. But keep on keeping on with the victim mentality now that Nintendo is riding a good press wave.

I get your sentiment but I feel like Arms and Splatoon are going to sell regardless because as I said people buy Nintendo games in bunches especially if the console has sold well. And when those titles are part of a very limited catalogue of games they are bond to do well because people need to play something on the new system they just bought. Arms isn't even getting great reviews and I guarentee you it will sell a whole lot. Also as I mentioned in a previous post I find a game like Arms or Splatoon incredibly chidlish. Nintendo is catering so much to kids which is good strategy but I don't have to like it. Sony and Microsoft have games for kids but that's not their main focus. Even the new Zelda which is fantastic could have been more gritty.

Going off of your logic games like wonderful 101, codename steam, the last story or even 1,2 switch should have moved millions of units just like Splatoon. Also why does a game need to be gritty to be good?



collint0101 said:
germibobi said:

I get your sentiment but I feel like Arms and Splatoon are going to sell regardless because as I said people buy Nintendo games in bunches especially if the console has sold well. And when those titles are part of a very limited catalogue of games they are bond to do well because people need to play something on the new system they just bought. Arms isn't even getting great reviews and I guarentee you it will sell a whole lot. Also as I mentioned in a previous post I find a game like Arms or Splatoon incredibly chidlish. Nintendo is catering so much to kids which is good strategy but I don't have to like it. Sony and Microsoft have games for kids but that's not their main focus. Even the new Zelda which is fantastic could have been more gritty.

Going off of your logic games like wonderful 101, codename steam, the last story or even 1,2 switch should have moved millions of units just like Splatoon. Also why does a game need to be gritty to be good?

I'm not necessairly saying it has but you can't deny Nintendo consoles for the past 10 years or have been mainly marketed to kids, can you?



SegataSanshiro said:
Awful topic. Every PlayStation console has had a shit launch lineup. Never seemed to stop them. Also does anyone remember Wii's launch lineup outside Wii Sports and Zelda? Switch already has 3 new IPs from Nintendo. Not since SNES have they launched with so many new IPs in the same year.

Off topic but the vita launch line up was oddly pretty dope 



I'm a bit rusty with math, but it seems to add up.

He is a gamer + He doesn't like what Nintendo is doing = Nintendo's business is bad for gamers