Aeolus451 said:
StarOcean said:
I'm not a dem. Nor left like you try to propogate. Pro-Conservation is what I am. And that short sighted benefit will hurt the world. Instead of pander to industries like coal mining which has no future, the US should invest into jobs that help the environment. There are plenty of jobs that do that which will and can boost the economy
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Hmm. You're somewhere on the left even if you don't adhere to any label but I could be wrong. You could just depise trump for all I know. No one really asks eachother what they believe on the issues.
As I said before in other posts, we can still mine and use the coal in a more cleaner way while researching clean energy sources that can meet world's demands. We don't have to sacrifice the livelihood of those miners or other natural resource industries to develope clean energy. Eventually, coal will be phased out as technology improves. The paris accord is really just a token measure to lessen emissions because it doesn't really accomplish much. It's a shit deal for america in terms of jobs lost and the money we have to shell out to underdeveloped countries for a tiny barely measurable return for the environment. The tradeoff isn't worth it especially with the US paying out foreign aid. No one is saying we shouldn't do what we can to stop ourselves from destroying the planet but solutions have to be practical with what it costs and we gain from it. Any measure to improve the environment is not automatically a good idea.
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I wouldn't say that I'm left or right. Politically, I'm a mutt. I take from both sides, central, and as you have noticed even alt-right and alt-left on issues. I mostly follow my own beliefs. If it seems I am left or right that is purely situational as I am also anti-political party. Rather Im pro-policy. I'd never vote left or right because it is the "correct" party but rather go by the one which goes by my beliefs. Right now I consider Dem and Reps the same party but aim for slightly different agendas. Dems push more for the environment which is why some might see me as a Dem even though Im disgusted by them as well. Both are what I consider right wing parties anyway. That all being said, I believe aligning with any party compromises individuality and makes people more likely to agree to things they dont agree with which is never a good idea. That all said, I am anti-Trump. Pro-environment. Dems and Reps I dont care about.
And I do see your point. However I find it hard to believe the coal and other industries would have everyone out of a job so fast. In fact if the gov invested enough, the transition could occur before anyone loses a job at all. That is, wishful thinking though, since this admin has an odd disdain towards science. At the same time you know this deal has little impact and is mostly a suggestion. Backing away from it makes the US look bad. Which could be temporary depending on what Trump does. But I have no hope of Trump not doing something worse in the future