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I think a lot of that stuff in that British spy "dossier" against Trump is probably true, pissing Russian prostitutes and all.

They verified parts of it. Trump doesn't want a full investigation because he would be screwed if everything come to light.



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Soundwave said:

I think a lot of that stuff in that British spy "dossier" against Trump is probably true, pissing Russian prostitutes and all.

They verified parts of it. Trump doesn't want a full investigation because he would be screwed if everything come to light.

I wonder if that's true though. He's not called "Teflon Trump" for nothing.

He's the most moronic, most unprepared and most hated president ever. He lies more than 50% of the time. He has questionable views about minorities, women and global politics. Then he was elected.

Why would the Russia thing screw him when everything else despicable about him didn't?



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Trump refers to Comey as being an attention seeker, Showboater and a grandstander. These words perfectly describe Trump. Just add a touch of arrogance and you have super rich billionaire showboating and grandstanding President Trump.



vivster said:
Soundwave said:

I think a lot of that stuff in that British spy "dossier" against Trump is probably true, pissing Russian prostitutes and all.

They verified parts of it. Trump doesn't want a full investigation because he would be screwed if everything come to light.

I wonder if that's true though. He's not called "Teflon Trump" for nothing.

He's the most moronic, most unprepared and most hated president ever. He lies more than 50% of the time. He has questionable views about minorities, women and global politics. Then he was elected.

Why would the Russia thing screw him when everything else despicable about him didn't?

Because it would show that he's compromised by a foreign power having salacious sex tapes on him. He could not be relied upon to reasonably fulfill the duties of the office. 

It would be far worse than Bill Clinton getting a BJ from a naive nobody intern in 1998. 

I think the odds of it are reasonably high too. The British spy is somone who's verified by the FBI and CIA to be reliable and they've used intel from him in the past. They also verified parts of the dossier. 

Secondly Trump himself in one of his business books years ago bragged about basically going to Europe for sex (he cites this as one of the reasons why he went bankrupt the first time because he "took his eyes off the ball"). 

Really, it doesn't take much to believe that Russia knowing that he's a billionaire tapped his hotel room. Likely all high profile visitors there are tapped. 



Soundwave said:
vivster said:

I wonder if that's true though. He's not called "Teflon Trump" for nothing.

He's the most moronic, most unprepared and most hated president ever. He lies more than 50% of the time. He has questionable views about minorities, women and global politics. Then he was elected.

Why would the Russia thing screw him when everything else despicable about him didn't?

Because it would show that he's compromised by a foreign power having salacious sex tapes on him. He could not be relied upon to reasonably fulfill the duties of the office. 

It would be far worse than Bill Clinton getting a BJ from a naive nobody intern in 1998. 

I think the odds of it are reasonably high too. The British spy is somone who's verified by the FBI and CIA to be reliable and they've used intel from him in the past. They also verified parts of the dossier. 

Secondly Trump himself in one of his business books years ago bragged about basically going to Europe for sex (he cites this as one of the reasons why he went bankrupt the first time because he "took his eyes off the ball"). 

Really, it doesn't take much to believe that Russia knowing that he's a billionaire tapped his hotel room. Likely all high profile visitors there are tapped. 

@ bolded

If all the things he has done before don't prove that he is unfit for office, nothing will. That he is unfit was clear long befor the election. I don't see how this completely unacceptable action of a president is any different from the multitude of other unacceptable actions he took the past year.

He will just claim fake news, fire someone and then have his next unacceptable gaffe so people forget about it.



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vivster said:
Soundwave said:

Because it would show that he's compromised by a foreign power having salacious sex tapes on him. He could not be relied upon to reasonably fulfill the duties of the office. 

It would be far worse than Bill Clinton getting a BJ from a naive nobody intern in 1998. 

I think the odds of it are reasonably high too. The British spy is somone who's verified by the FBI and CIA to be reliable and they've used intel from him in the past. They also verified parts of the dossier. 

Secondly Trump himself in one of his business books years ago bragged about basically going to Europe for sex (he cites this as one of the reasons why he went bankrupt the first time because he "took his eyes off the ball"). 

Really, it doesn't take much to believe that Russia knowing that he's a billionaire tapped his hotel room. Likely all high profile visitors there are tapped. 

@ bolded

If all the things he has done before don't prove that he is unfit for office, nothing will. That he is unfit was clear long befor the election. I don't see how this completely unacceptable action of a president is any different from the multitude of other unacceptable actions he took the past year.

He will just claim fake news, fire someone and then have his next unacceptable gaffe so people forget about it.

No actually that is an impeachable offence. 

You would be effectively black mailed into doing things that might go against national interest by a foreign power. That is a big, big no, no. That is like 100x worse than Watergate that got Nixon booted. If any of that ever came to light he'd be done. 

You can't "fake news" your way out of that. In any case I think that who Trump train will eventually collapse on itself. His whole appeal was based around being different and "lets give the crazy guy a shot", but generally speaking people are still dissatisfied with Washington, and IMO they will still be in 3 years. The novelty of him will wear off quick. He's all talk and his ideas don't bring any meaningful change to anyone's life, nor does he have any ability to get any reasonable things done (being a complete novice in politics doesn't help). Policy wise he's really at his core just another "give more tax breaks to rich people, cut health care for poor people" Republican. 

All that "running things like a business" was a load of shit. Governing is nothing like running a business. 



Soundwave said:
vivster said:

@ bolded

If all the things he has done before don't prove that he is unfit for office, nothing will. That he is unfit was clear long befor the election. I don't see how this completely unacceptable action of a president is any different from the multitude of other unacceptable actions he took the past year.

He will just claim fake news, fire someone and then have his next unacceptable gaffe so people forget about it.

No actually that is an impeachable offence. 

You would be effectively black mailed into doing things that might go against national interest by a foreign power. That is a big, big no, no. That is like 100x worse than Watergate that got Nixon booted. If any of that ever came to light he'd be done. 

You can't "fake news" your way out of that. In any case I think that who Trump train will eventually collapse on itself. His whole appeal was based around being different, but generally speaking people are still dissatisfied with Washington, and IMO they will still be in 3 years. The novelty of him will wear off quick. He's all talk and his ideas don't bring any meaningful change to anyone's life, nor does he have any ability to get any reasonable things done (being a complete novice in politics doesn't help). Policy wise he's really at his core just another "give more tax breaks to rich people" Republican. 

All that "running things like a business" was a load of shit. Governing is nothing like running a business. 

I won't hold my breath. A lot of things we thought were unimaginable for a president to do, like not releasing taxt returns, blatant nepotism, lying about basically everything etc. There is most likely another loophole or possiblility to block impeachment procedures to keep him in office that we don't know about yet.



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vivster said:
Soundwave said:

No actually that is an impeachable offence. 

You would be effectively black mailed into doing things that might go against national interest by a foreign power. That is a big, big no, no. That is like 100x worse than Watergate that got Nixon booted. If any of that ever came to light he'd be done. 

You can't "fake news" your way out of that. In any case I think that who Trump train will eventually collapse on itself. His whole appeal was based around being different, but generally speaking people are still dissatisfied with Washington, and IMO they will still be in 3 years. The novelty of him will wear off quick. He's all talk and his ideas don't bring any meaningful change to anyone's life, nor does he have any ability to get any reasonable things done (being a complete novice in politics doesn't help). Policy wise he's really at his core just another "give more tax breaks to rich people" Republican. 

All that "running things like a business" was a load of shit. Governing is nothing like running a business. 

I won't hold my breath. A lot of things we thought were unimaginable for a president to do, like not releasing taxt returns, blatant nepotism, lying about basically everything etc. There is most likely another loophole or possiblility to block impeachment procedures to keep him in office that we don't know about yet.

That was his own appeal though ... he was different. But when the results are not there, that whole appeal just leaves a loud-mouthed joke of a characature. 

The other problem is he talked a big, big game. "We're going to win so much you're going to be tired of winning" ... lol, has to be one of the dumbest things ever said by a politician ever, but it's also one of things that can come back to bite you in the ass (ie: read my lips ... no new taxes). 



vivster said:
Soundwave said:

Because it would show that he's compromised by a foreign power having salacious sex tapes on him. He could not be relied upon to reasonably fulfill the duties of the office. 

It would be far worse than Bill Clinton getting a BJ from a naive nobody intern in 1998. 

I think the odds of it are reasonably high too. The British spy is somone who's verified by the FBI and CIA to be reliable and they've used intel from him in the past. They also verified parts of the dossier. 

Secondly Trump himself in one of his business books years ago bragged about basically going to Europe for sex (he cites this as one of the reasons why he went bankrupt the first time because he "took his eyes off the ball"). 

Really, it doesn't take much to believe that Russia knowing that he's a billionaire tapped his hotel room. Likely all high profile visitors there are tapped. 

@ bolded

If all the things he has done before don't prove that he is unfit for office, nothing will. That he is unfit was clear long befor the election. I don't see how this completely unacceptable action of a president is any different from the multitude of other unacceptable actions he took the past year.

He will just claim fake news, fire someone and then have his next unacceptable gaffe so people forget about it.

Being in the pocket of a foreign power is one of those American fears even the Republican congress could not ignore or lose a lot of seats.  I agree that Trump so far has appeared to be immune things that would have sank any other President.  Because he seems immune, he has become more bold and thus sloppy.  The Interview he did was pure ignorance.  He wanted to showboat as he would call it that it was his decision to fire Comey instead of a due process.  Basically he gives all his opponents ammunition if there ever was impeachment on the table.  Right now impeachment is very far away if ever because the Republicans control congress but as things get deeper, if Trump gets more brazen and try to cover up more stuff, it will eventually be enough to open that blind eye of the Republican party.



DarthVolod said:
Jpcc86 said:
Theres absolutely nothing suspicious about this at all.

Take off the tin foil hat; Comy's fate was sealed long ago. 

Hillary would have fired him too (probably one of the first things she would have done; most likely while cackling with that inhuman laugh of hers)

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-james-comey.html?_r=0

 

No matter who won the election, Comy was going to lose. 

HILLARY TOO!!! It's crazy all the mental gymnastics people come up with in defending a blatantly corrupt move such as this one. At every egregious move Trump makes, we're always met with a "Hillary would have done the the same/worse" like it's some kind of truth with ZERO point of reference. How do people hit this state of mind? IF, she had done something like this, she should be called out for it. But, since this hasn't happened anyplace but some pocket dimension that crackpots have made up, there's no weight to statements like that.