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VGPolyglot said:
I don't like the term puppet. It makes it sound like he's powerless and being controlled by someone else. He's a willing participant, and let's acknowledge that.

Not so willing when you owe billions to people who groomed you for decades, when American banks weren't lending you money.



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Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:
I don't like the term puppet. It makes it sound like he's powerless and being controlled by someone else. He's a willing participant, and let's acknowledge that.

Not so willing when you owe billions to people who groomed you for decades, when American banks weren't lending you money.

Uhh, even when Donald Trump was having financial difficulties in the 90s, the banks gave him an allowance of $400,000 a month, which is more than 10 times what the median worker makes. He's never had it rough at all, he joined the presidential race by his own volition. I have no idea how a multibillionaire who owns corporations has been somehow cast as a poor folk who's being taken advantage of by rich guys.



etking said:
I think he deserves a fair chance which he never got because all media hate him and write bad bad articles all the time for no reason at all. The constant hate speech of the media directed against him manipulates the public opinion.

Fair chance you say.  There is nothing that says he isn't getting a fair chance the issue is that he continue to make dumb mistakes.  As many people have stated, just jumping into the President office without any political experience is like hiring the bus boy to become CEO or a corporation.  We have seen what giving him a fair chance is going.  From his appointments for the EPA, FCC, Education.  He has shone he is more happy with trying to make the president office a money maker for himself and his businesses then actually doing his job.  He has pissed out just about all our allies without a single thought of the cost.  He has run probably the most inept 100 days in office of any President ever.  Then he hires his kids and relatives to high ranking jobs while they still run his companies causing a huge conflict of interest and the only thing we can get from them is that we will do right.

Is the media onTurmp like a tick on a dogs behind, you bet but thats because he keep feeding them blood every chance he gets.  Its the same thing during the primaries and election.  Trump loves attention and when he is not in the news he creates it like the dumb tweets.  



Aeolus451 said:
Hmm, you have no interest in a discussion with a headline and op like that. I imagine you created this so others will echo your beliefs. I wonder why liberals lost most of their elected positions during the election.

 

Lafiel said:
Aeolus451 said:
Hmm, you have no interest in a discussion with a headline and op like that. I imagine you created this so others will echo your beliefs. I wonder why liberals lost most of their elected positions during the election.

instead of being so sensitive you could have explained why the repeal of this regulation is a good thing mr snowflake

Let us try to avoid making such generalizations and personal jabs, shall we?



Finally a political thread I agree with. I think trump and Hillary are both Puppets of the powers that be. We were screwed either way. The only positive that I see about Trump is because of his anti political correctness style of Politics the Sjw/liberal half of society has been more triggered than ever before. I'm hoping sjw culture ends in the next few years.



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VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

Not so willing when you owe billions to people who groomed you for decades, when American banks weren't lending you money.

Uhh, even when Donald Trump was having financial difficulties in the 90s, the banks gave him an allowance of $400,000 a month, which is more than 10 times what the median worker makes. He's never had it rough at all, he joined the presidential race by his own volition. I have no idea how a multibillionaire who owns corporations has been somehow cast as a poor folk who's being taken advantage of by rich guys.

You are looking through your own or personal scope. Trump does business in hundreds of million dollars type of deals. 

He has to contract that type of debt through Wall Street banks, which since 1980's until late 90's stopped lending him money due to his notoriety on late or delinquent payments. 

The only bank that loyally lend him money when no one else did was the Deutsche Bank. Which is in trouble with federal authorities in their direct implication on the 2008 economic crisis.

Trump was not properly vetted and his massive loans from Bank of China and Deustche Bank should've prevented him of running for public office. Like Jared Kushner should've never stepped into White House due to his massive $4 billion loan from bank of China as well.

Dodd-Frank and TTP are getting rolled back and guess who are the benificiaries? Not the f*ck ups who can't manage their financials for sh*t.



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Hiro94 said:
Finally a political thread I agree with. I think trump and Hillary are both Puppets of the powers that be. We were screwed either way. The only positive that I see about Trump is because of his anti political correctness style of Politics the Sjw/liberal half of society has been more triggered than ever before. I'm hoping sjw culture ends in the enxt few years.

You couldn't be more wrong! Just like Snowden that said that 2016 elections was Donald T. vs Goldman Sachs.

Trump so far added 4 Goldman Sachs Alums in senior positions at the WH where they can affect economic policies that afect big banks. 

And all you're worried about is some people might have opinions different than yours and you want them gone. 



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Aeolus451 said:
LurkerJ said:

If I was American I would've voted for Trump. I stand fully behind him when it comes to blocking immigration from Islamic countries. Islam is the most dangerous threat to liberalism even the insane vocal lefties don't realize it. Islam's claws need to be trimmed and not welcomed, although his blocked bans are worthless even if they weren't blocked. I'd rather if he reduces America's role in the middle east to a passive one like he promised, instead, he openly continues to talk about his intention to steal Iraq's oil and natural resources. How's that different from before? What does that solve? I guess his honest approach is respectable but that's not gonna change anything.

You were right assuming I am a liberal because most of my views align with the left, but I was happy with Trump's win. I also think the Russia allegations are ridiculous, and even if they were true, I'd rather have a Putin's puppet than Al-Saud's puppet. So go ahead, discuss and teach me what I got wrong about the topic at hand. I am listening.

I replied to someone else with my point of view on this topic and I have no intention to "teach" anyone because that's a condescending way to have a conversation with others. My main problem is the way you worded everything in a very clickbait way and didn't really try to invite people with dissenting opinions to join in. 

I disagree, teaching is admirable, it's the ultimate gift. 

Also, the title isn't clickbaity, anyone who remotely watches the news could guess what the OP is gonna be about before clicking. "corporate puppets" and "corporate shills" aren't insults. They are short yet accurate descriptions that describe most of the politicians running the USA. The topic at hand is tightly related to those accurate terms. 

As for your point of view, I just read it, I don't entirely understand what you are talking about, ISPs are gonna get what they want regardless of what happens to net neutrality next.

Title is updated. Hopefully, it's more "inviting" now to both sides.



Well yes, people in the USA are screwed because of how their democracy is set up. Or maybe it would be more accurate to say what it has evolved into.

There are effectively only two political parties who aren't fundamentally different. For the most part it's really only a choice of who people want to get screwed over by.



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RolStoppable said:
Well yes, people in the USA are screwed because of how their democracy is set up. Or maybe it would be more accurate to say what it has evolved into.

There are effectively only two political parties who aren't fundamentally different. For the most part it's really only a choice of who people want to get screwed over by.

I wouldn't say it's evolved to it, it's been like that since the start. Remember that only white male property owners were allowed to vote at first.