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pbroy said:
All they need to do is call it Ivankacare and people will welcome it with open arms. 🙄

Call it 2B care and I'm sure they'll get a lot of supporters.



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JRPGfan said:
jason1637 said:

OP- Republicans made a good choice by pulling out. If this went through it could cost them the 2018 election.

1) Hillary was a better choice. I have a hard time thinking of how she could screw up worse than trump is bound to do.

2) Do you see trump running in 2018? or winning it? I think he makes such a mess of it, the republicans lose it next time anyways.

1. Meh thats subjective.

2. I was refering to the Senate election in 2018. Republicans hold the senate so they will be running to keep there spots so if the new health care plan actually went through i think the senate would have went to the democrats so its good that they didnt go through with the plan. If Trump wants to he can run in 2020.



Obama is brilliant no matter what you think of his opinion. Obamacare is to good for moderate republicans and to extreme for ultra conservative. This makes it a win-win np matter gow it goes. And now Trump will häve to live with managing Obamacare :).



I think its a bad position for GOP.

They pretty have lost the ability to attack Obamcare sucks as they could not change it.



Funny how Democrats are trying to claim victory, when they had nothing to do with it. The Conservative members of the Republican party didn't want an Obamacare-lite plan, so said they were going to vote no on the bill. Ryan and/or Trump didn't want the embarrassment of a loss, so they just pulled the bill.



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TheLegendaryWolf said:
JRPGfan said:

From youtube comments:

 

- the travel ban failed twice

- healthcare bill failed (26m people within 4years to lose healthcare if it went though, prices will skyrocket so top1% of the richest in US get tax cuts)

- Mexico isn't paying for the wall (the price if building one is insane)

- approval ratings in the thirties

- ISIS is still fighting and there's no plan to defeat it (promised to "deal" with ISIS within first 30days of office)

- Putin is still in Ukraine

- Flynn resigned and registered as a foreign agent retroactively

- Failed to demonstrate Obama wiretapped him (lies)

- Golfed 11 times in 8 weeks at the expense of the taxpayers

- Removed Wall Street Regulations (too big to fail, going to happend again, his rich buddies get richer)



How did the US vote for this guy?

You can thank the DNC for blatantly compromising Bernie Sanders at every turn during the primaries, oh and a ton of super delegates too...

^^^What this guy said.

If Bernie was the Nominee then my vote would've been to him, instead my vote went to Jill Stein.



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vivster said:

Let me guess, Trump is calling this a victory because Republicans stopped a terrible healthcare bill and Democrats didn't with Obamacare.

 Took the words right out of my mouth.



Jeez, that's gotta sting. Historically it's hard to not get your bill passed when you're party controls the house. Yet he managed it somehow. That's what happens when you think you can approach politicians like share holders. They don't respond to it. Let's see if it's a lesson he actually learns.



I think this highlights an interesting issue with the Republicans right now. They don't have a consensus on healthcare. The Democrats by and large agree on where they'd like healthcare to go (80% of them want a single payer system) while Trumpcare was too overreaching and expensive for conservative Republicans, and didn't provide enough coverage for moderate ones.

So realistically their best chance at getting a bill passed, is to fine one that appeals to moderate Democrats and Republicans and leave the flanks behind.

Also, I don't know how much of an effect this will have on the midterms, simply because a lot can happen between now and then. But they gave up a lot of political capital, and very important early term legislation time with this loss.

So it isn't so much that this will lose them congress, but the closer we get to the midterms the harder it's going to be for members of congress to side with an unpopular President on what will likely be unpopular issues.



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LadyJasmine said:
I think its a bad position for GOP.

They pretty have lost the ability to attack Obamcare sucks as they could not change it.

If the ACA collapses in on itself, which it very well could, the disasterous concequences (far worse than what would have happened had AHCA passed) for all the people that rely on it would definitely return favor to the right who will accuse today's detractors. They'll say their own flawed measure would have prevented total disaster by creating a minor one. I'm certainly not hoping this will happen, but they might be. Withdrawing the measure before the vote is a pretty clear indication that Trump would rather benefit from a disaster tomorrow than suffer a huge embarrassment today.