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think-man on 16 March 2017
Qwark said:
think-man said:
I live in the Netherlands and didn't even know the election was on lol

As they say in Dutch and Louis van Gaal English: Under which stone did you lay the past couple of weeks.

Well i knew there was something happening but i didn't know it was an election hahaha. I don't speak dutch so i don't follow the news. 



 

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crissindahouse on 16 March 2017
think-man said:
Qwark said:

As they say in Dutch and Louis van Gaal English: Under which stone did you lay the past couple of weeks.

Well i knew there was something happening but i didn't know it was an election hahaha. I don't speak dutch so i don't follow the news. 

But it was news around the world because of Erdogan annoying them so close before election and because of Wilders and what his election would mean for whole Europe



S.Peelman on 16 March 2017

All votes have been counted now pretty much, like 98% or something. Exit-polls were pretty much correct, seems winner VVD gains another 2 seats (33), Wilders's PVV 1 seat (20) while the Green party (14) and one of the Christian parties lose 3 seats and 1 seat respectively compared to the exit-poll. Turn-out was 80.2%, up from 74.5% last time in 2012.

Not a very surprising result, seems foreign media was hoping for sonething more... exciting in preperation for the French and German elections. I personally did expect VVD and Wilders to be closer though but in the end it really was no contest. Wilders has little use for his five extra seats, sadly for him, because I doubt Rutte is going to form a cabinet with him.



think-man on 16 March 2017
crissindahouse said:
think-man said:

Well i knew there was something happening but i didn't know it was an election hahaha. I don't speak dutch so i don't follow the news. 

But it was news around the world because of Erdogan annoying them so close before election and because of Wilders and what his election would mean for whole Europe

The only news i follow is New Zealand news :P



 

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areason on 16 March 2017
LadyJasmine said:
Its up to leaders to mitigate populist anger and it seems unlike Hillary and Remain, leaders have gotten the message.

The top 3 parties are now all in some way "conservative", so the populist anger won. 

The liberal party lost about 30 seats



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palou on 16 March 2017
areason said:
LadyJasmine said:
Its up to leaders to mitigate populist anger and it seems unlike Hillary and Remain, leaders have gotten the message.

The top 3 parties are now all in some way "conservative", so the populist anger won. 

The liberal party lost about 30 seats

They're not really populists, though. And they did not rely upon anger to get their votes; none really emphasising on "change", or presenting the country's situation as worse than it is. 



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Acevil on 16 March 2017
palou said:
areason said:

The top 3 parties are now all in some way "conservative", so the populist anger won. 

The liberal party lost about 30 seats

They're not really populists, though. And they did not rely upon anger to get their votes; none really emphasising on "change", or presenting the country's situation as worse than it is. 

Add in the fact that center right in Europe is more liberal than Democrats of the USA.



 

StarOcean on 16 March 2017
barneystinson69 said:

Based on exit polling. Right... The same exit polling that was horribly off in the us elections, and said that brexit was a lost cause? 

Using one US election to base all voting for all countries going forward probably isn't the best metric to base polls on. That's like using the Wii as a metric for all console gens going forward. It's just unreliable, more unreliable than not believing polls  



irstupid on 16 March 2017
StarOcean said:
barneystinson69 said:

Based on exit polling. Right... The same exit polling that was horribly off in the us elections, and said that brexit was a lost cause? 

Using one US election to base all voting for all countries going forward probably isn't the best metric to base polls on. That's like using the Wii as a metric for all console gens going forward. It's just unreliable, more unreliable than not believing polls  

He didn't use one, he brought up two. The U.S. election AND the brexit vote.



StarOcean on 16 March 2017
irstupid said:
StarOcean said:

Using one US election to base all voting for all countries going forward probably isn't the best metric to base polls on. That's like using the Wii as a metric for all console gens going forward. It's just unreliable, more unreliable than not believing polls  

He didn't use one, he brought up two. The U.S. election AND the brexit vote.

I said one US election. And as for Brexit, many people, including myself saw it coming. That one was a bit more obvious, imo. Then again -I did not follow the polls for that decision. Were they like the US one? And despite it being 2, that really doesn't improve things.