absurd logic. The only thing your theory, if accurate, would prove is that former Nintendo releases (console wise) could have been bigger than they were. It wouldn't change the amount of Switches Nintendo is selling now.

And obviously there's demand. People are paying like $400 online for the thing, if anyone is willing to pay over the MSRP store ask price then that says something.

Absurd conspiracy theories.

The reality is that forgetting casuals and other fanbases, a lot of Nintendo fans (like myself) didn't really like the Wii U and kind of skipped out last generation. I think one thing you're seeing is a lot of us being excited about the Switch and returning. I'm discussing regarding the launch and why they did sell out immediately of a decent launch number of systems. I do know that there were like 70 people at my Best Buy in line on launch night and most people appeared to be pretty pumped to get the system.

Again, the concept that there is some sort of ploy by Nintendo by providing MORE systems at launch is just stupid. They undership dramatically and you say they're trying to build hype, and then they ship more at this launch than they have previous launches and you say they're now bragging about sales numbers because of deliberately small previous ones. Its just ridiculous, whatever they do you guys say stuff.

All I know is I dig the Switch and skipped out for the Wii U (for the most part) so there's definitely a fraction of gamers who way more identify with the Switch than they did with the Wii U.

its a mega powered handheld system (for the gaming world), what's not to like 

I don't remember saying that Nintendo purposely held back previous launches.

I do think the Nintendo would have normally launched their system in November of 2016.  But, the decided to avoid the holiday crush which would have sold all of the systems anyway, and waited for march to accomplish just what they did.  They can sell 1 more unit than the Wiis launch and claim that it was the "best Launch Ever for Nintendo".  To do so, the presells and consumer demad built up even more to ensure they could sell it out on launch week.  With the internet world the way it is now, companies products HAVE to have a successful perceived launch in order to make it.

Does there have to be demand to accomplish this?  Of course, but it is obvious that the worlds population is alomst a billion more than when the Wii launched.  Like you said, Nintendo fixed many of the problems from the WiiU and launched the system with a Zelda game(also held back for the launch) to ensure that it would maximize the exposure.

but even in the most direct way what he's trying to say is a silly accusation based on whims. Yes, Nintendo, like any other console manufacturer, is aware of what their previous systems sold.

but simply making more systems available at launch than ever before doesn't gurantee a breaking of records. In fact the Wii U had a ton of systems available at launch (you could walk around into any store worldwide practically and there would be a pile of them), but that didn't magically make it 'break records'.

Nintendo's literal LAST home console generation stocking situation at launch sort of contradicts what the OP is saying. Because Nintendo already did this last gen, they provided a ton of Wii U's (and got burnt).

as someone else mentioned a few posts ago- you could put a million Ouya's out for sale at launch but they wouldn't have magically sold. You can't force the market to embrace your product. The OP is acting like Nintendo has some sort of gurantee that if they simple launch 2x or 3x their previous generations hardware numbers at launch that they'll sell through and then Nintendo will have some sort of artificial control over demand for systems/games.

But that's backwards thinking, the only way you can maintain demand is if people actually WANT and like the device. You can't ignore that.

no to mention the OP suggests that NIntendo launched in March because A) they wouldn't have enough hardware available  in time for a holiday 2016 launch, yet also B) that Nintendo artificially is doing this to 'break' records. Which totally is a contradition in logic.

If launching in March supposedly is some sort of method to 'break records', then launching in the holiday would have doubley broken records.

The OP's post is just a complete fallacy in logic and somewhat embarassing. Talk about clutching at straws. 

I mean, jesus, tells 'tales of record presales'? They can't accidentally lie about that information when the stock they provide is given to third party retailers and the retailers then have the information themselves.

You're welcome to hate but at least come up with some more logical accusations than this. Anyone can make up random stuff out of thin air based on nothing. "NIntendo is lying!" blah blah blah. Grow up.

but even in the most direct way what he's trying to say is a silly accusation based on whims. Yes, Nintendo, like any other console manufacturer, is aware of what their previous systems sold.

but simply making more systems available at launch than ever before doesn't gurantee a breaking of records. In fact the Wii U had a ton of systems available at launch (you could walk around into any store worldwide practically and there would be a pile of them), but that didn't magically make it 'break records'.

Nintendo's literal LAST home console generation stocking situation at launch sort of contradicts what the OP is saying. Because Nintendo already did this last gen, they provided a ton of Wii U's (and got burnt).

as someone else mentioned a few posts ago- you could put a million Ouya's out for sale at launch but they wouldn't have magically sold. You can't force the market to embrace your product. The OP is acting like Nintendo has some sort of gurantee that if they simple launch 2x or 3x their previous generations hardware numbers at launch that they'll sell through and then Nintendo will have some sort of artificial control over demand for systems/games.

But that's backwards thinking, the only way you can maintain demand is if people actually WANT and like the device. You can't ignore that.

no to mention the OP suggests that NIntendo launched in March because A) they wouldn't have enough hardware available  in time for a holiday 2016 launch, yet also B) that Nintendo artificially is doing this to 'break' records. Which totally is a contradition in logic.

If launching in March supposedly is some sort of method to 'break records', then launching in the holiday would have doubley broken records.

The OP's post is just a complete fallacy in logic and somewhat embarassing. Talk about clutching at straws. 

I mean, jesus, tells 'tales of record presales'? They can't accidentally lie about that information when the stock they provide is given to third party retailers and the retailers then have the information themselves.

You're welcome to hate but at least come up with some more logical accusations than this. Anyone can make up random stuff out of thin air based on nothing. "NIntendo is lying!" blah blah blah. Grow up.

And I agree with you. 

In fact reading the OP again, it's complete nonsense. I understood it a different way reading it the first time. 

Even what I thought he meant first time around doesn't add up so I revoke anything I've said in previous post. 

Even if they put 20 million consoles out that doesn't mean they were gonna sell out.

the Wii U had a massive amount of consoles available at launch. They did not sell through. You could find a Wii U practically anywhere in its first few days and week. 

the Wii U in itself already would have been an attempt at what the OP is implying Nintendo is magically doing now. They stocked heavily. But it didn't happen, systems do not always sell out at launch, despite what some of you may think.

I am almost certain the Wii U at launch had as many systems out in the wild as the Switch so this sort of breaks the OPs argument. Also, the argument that consumer buzz is what it causing an item to sell well on its own is absurd. There is buzz because a product is well liked, therefore the quality of the product is why its selling well.

To simply say "you can stock a ton of something and then it will do great!" is one of the worst economic arguments I've ever heard. Its entirely contingent on the device being well received. Which, again, the Wii U is an example of that NOT happening. The Switch so far is an example OF it happening. Not all devices launch to success.

Too many of you seem to be only following Playstation and Apple releases and don't keep an eye on the plethora of electronic devices that have poor launches.