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naruball on 10 March 2017
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mountaindewslave said:
naruball said:
What's with all the negative responses?

Part of what the op said makes sense. They made more consoles this time around so they sold more.

This is clever since they can create buzz with gaming sites reporting how it's breaking records, beating even the mighty ps4. Consumers see it as a must have item to own, the way they did with ps4. Weren't there stories of people going to stores to buy an xb1 and leaving with a ps4 because of everyone else getting a ps4? Casual gamers are much more easily persuaded than most of us here.

Hype and buzz can do wonderful things for a produce. Just look at iphone. I bought a wii because everyone was talking about it. And even though I was planning on buying a psvr, I may not any time soon. Companies need to rethink their console launches.

the Wii U had a massive amount of consoles available at launch. They did not sell through. You could find a Wii U practically anywhere in its first few days and week. 

the Wii U in itself already would have been an attempt at what the OP is implying Nintendo is magically doing now. They stocked heavily. But it didn't happen, systems do not always sell out at launch, despite what some of you may think.

I am almost certain the Wii U at launch had as many systems out in the wild as the Switch so this sort of breaks the OPs argument. Also, the argument that consumer buzz is what it causing an item to sell well on its own is absurd. There is buzz because a product is well liked, therefore the quality of the product is why its selling well.

To simply say "you can stock a ton of something and then it will do great!" is one of the worst economic arguments I've ever heard. Its entirely contingent on the device being well received. Which, again, the Wii U is an example of that NOT happening. The Switch so far is an example OF it happening. Not all devices launch to success.

Too many of you seem to be only following Playstation and Apple releases and don't keep an eye on the plethora of electronic devices that have poor launches.

So many problems with this post, it's not even funny.

1. No one said that they could make any number of consoles and that any console would have sold out no matter what. Wiiu was a failed product that the market rejected just like they did with gamecube. Hence my point about ouya. Most systems are guarenteed to sell out at launch. Xb1 could have sold more, wii could have sold more, and ps4 out of all consoles could have sold a lot more.

2. It doesn't break the op's argument. It simply doesn't work this way. There is a clear trend here. You may wanna look up terms like "the rule" and "the exception" (that proves the rule)

3. "To simply say "you can stock a ton of something and then it will do great!" is one of the worst economic arguments I've ever heard". Yes, that's because I never said it. And the OP said all Ninty had to do was look at preorder numbers. If they are close to wii/ps4 numbers, make sure you ship some more units and you easily beat everyone else and make the headlines. Not "ship 10x the preorder numbers and they will all be sold out". Don't change the argument to make it look ridiculous when that's not what the other person is saying.

4. You talk about plethora of other releases, yet you keep bringing up wiiu. Strange.

5. What's absurd is you stating this ("Also, the argument that consumer buzz is what it causing an item to sell well on its own is absurd. There is buzz because a product is well liked, therefore the quality of the product is why its selling well") as a fact. I'd advise you to do a bit research on what you just said. Plenty of products of low quality do well. "Beats by Dre" is another good example of a low quality product which does better than the compeition for a number of reasons. To claim that if something does well, it is necessarily because of good quality, is completely absurd.