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Miguel_Zorro said:
Changed thread title

Before: Why is this community disconnected from reality?
After: Why are the gaming preferences of this community different from the general population?

Yeah.  I just noticed this.  Your doing?  I liked the original better.



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What if you play on your phone or PC, but almost exclusively emulate Nintendo games.



Miguel_Zorro said:
LivingMetal said:

Yeah.  I just noticed this.  Your doing?  I liked the original better.

The original was needlessly inflammatory.

That's understandable.  I just helps to see into the mind of the OP. 



I'm not disconnected from reality.... I love living in Hyrule.



The OP is discounting Nintendo fans that play primarily 3DS, which is still a larger user base than PS4.

There's also some history to the user base on this site.

- Last gen Xbox 360 and Wii were super strong and there were plenty of fans from all sides here. This gen Xbox One is behind PS4 on power and games, and this really reduced Xbox fan participation. There's been little to be hyped about on Xbox.

- Wii U has been a disaster, but the core Nintendo gamers on this site remained pretty hyped about the Wii U exclusive games, and also have 3DS to follow. The Switch also created new hype. Also an observation: the Nintendo gamer on this site cares more about loyalty to Nintendo hardware than PS & Xbox users are to their hardware. For example the dude who says he'd be excited to play GTA V on Switch... a game that could have been played for years and in better form on all the other platforms.



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sethnintendo said:

Pop music is the most popular music and it is complete shit.  Just because something sells the most doesn't always mean others will view it having any quality.

You do realize Pop music is just short for Popular music. It also isn't a real genre since Pop musc can come from any genre of music. Like Flo Rida is considered a Pop artist because he has a lot of hit songs but he's really just a rapper. Same as Pitbull. Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake are R&B artists.

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I wouldn't call someone who likes CoD or yearly sports games a casual as a lot of them spend more money and time playing games than most "hardcore" gamers. I've been on this site for years and I've noticed some gamers will hype a game up for months prior to release and when it finally releases they don't even buy it. Yet they will make posts and dispute the metacritic scores for that game versus a game from a competing console. To me that is more of a casual since you're not really playing the games. I would call someone who can tell you the hundreds of differences between the last six Madden games a hardcore gamer. I know guys that spend hundreds of dollars on VC for NBA 2K games every year and also spend thousands on the MYNBA2K companion app. I wouldn't consider those guys casual gamers in the least. 

This forum has people that will buy every new Tales of game, Final Fantasy, Persona, Fire Emblem etc. We call them real/hardcore gamers but then turn our noses up at those that purchase every new CoD, Madden, 2k, GTA, etc. and call them casual. That's just the nature of this particular site. Most here are comfortable with things that way so that's how it will stay.



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bdbdbd said:
Profrektius said:

I feel like those "casual" gamers don't get enough credit in these kind of "hardcore" gaming communities. Even people who play only Fifa can be incredibliy passionate about it. There is an entire meta game aspect to the games, and channels and sites entirely dedicated to in depth strategies. There are many forums just dedicated to those games, where many such people are highly passionate about that one sports game. I know this because I have been a part of that in the past. Again while that might not be the majority of those who play said game, there are so many communities and different levels of involvement, that it is nearly impossible to see the entire picture.

It is easy to say: "Yes, we are the ones passionate about gaming!", without even seeing the whole picture, because it makes us feel special. I also like to think I am somehow superior as a "hardcore gamer" to others, simply because I try to see all viewpoints, and try to repect and love all the games regardless of if they are considered casual or hardcore. However, I also realize that my thinking is restricted to my own viewpoint, and thus I am going to be bias no matter what, and in the end I'll just tell myself whatever makes me feel better in an attempt to satisfy my ego. Alas, that is the human nature I fear.

That's kind of backwards logic. People can be passionate about FIFA, but the general FIFA audience isn't. People can be passionate about COD, but the general COD audience isn't. FIFA sell mainly to sports fans, just like Gran Turismo sold mainly to teenagers that wanted to drive/tune a cool car.

Being passionate and being a hardcore gamer are two different things. I consider myself being passionate about gaming, but really can't consider myself a hardcore gamer, as the hardcore gamer isn't that passionate about gaming, but about the hype that precedes the game release.

As I said there are different levels of involvement in every community. You could say that about every game. Plenty of people play games like Mass Effect but are not passionate about them. Again my point here was that this reasoning of "Fifa/ Call of Duty general audience is not passionate, but we are" comes from a sense of wanting to feel superior, and wanting to satisfy our own egos. That we somehow are better than the general audience of gamers. I would argue that is a somewhat short sighted view, and failing to see outside of our own bubble.

Hardcore gamer is usually associated with simply gaming being their primary hobby, and spending lots of time on it. So I would define hardcore gamer simply as someone that is passionate about games. I fail to see how being hyped for games would make you a hardcore gamer, as most "casual gamers" will be hyped for new Call of Duty/ Battlefield/ Fifa/ Grand Theft Auto, etc. Either way, it's just a discussion about semantics, and I meant people that are passionate about games, so I can avoid using the term "hardcore gamer" if it causes confusion for you. 



Goddbless said:

On Topic:
I wouldn't call someone who likes CoD or yearly sports games a casual as a lot of them spend more money and time playing games than most "hardcore" gamers. I've been on this site for years and I've noticed some gamers will hype a game up for months prior to release and when it finally releases they don't even buy it. Yet they will make posts and dispute the metacritic scores for that game versus a game from a competing console. To me that is more of a casual since you're not really playing the games. I would call someone who can tell you the hundreds of differences between the last six Madden games a hardcore gamer. I know guys that spend hundreds of dollars on VC for NBA 2K games every year and also spend thousands on the MYNBA2K companion app. I wouldn't consider those guys casual gamers in the least. 

This forum has people that will buy every new Tales of game, Final Fantasy, Persona, Fire Emblem etc. We call them real/hardcore gamers but then turn our noses up at those that purchase every new CoD, Madden, 2k, GTA, etc. and call them casual. That's just the nature of this particular site. Most here are comfortable with things that way so that's how it will stay.

I completely agree on this as far as yearly titles go. Again I will repeat what I have said before on this thread, is that all of us want to feel like the way we are playing games, is somehow superior to those who are passionate about sports games or shooters, or any genre/game we don't play. It is simply natural to want to satisfy our egos and, it is very much a subconscious process we don't actively have as much control over.

I believe it simply comes down to being involved with video games, and how passionate you are about them, regardless of what games you play. And it can be difficult to judge how passionate other communities are if you are not part of them, and often results in looking at them in a more negative light, because of intergroup bias.

Edit: If a person spends 600 hours on an RPG, or 600 hours on Fifa, I would argue they are just as passionate about their game.



 

I think if you go to any gaming forum on the planet you would notice the same thing.

Casuals don't bother with gaming forums. More so a sales website.

I find that the casuals I know basically have FIFA consoles. In most cases they don't even know about 80% of the games I am interested in.

 

Profrektius said:
Goddbless said:

On Topic:
I wouldn't call someone who likes CoD or yearly sports games a casual as a lot of them spend more money and time playing games than most "hardcore" gamers. I've been on this site for years and I've noticed some gamers will hype a game up for months prior to release and when it finally releases they don't even buy it. Yet they will make posts and dispute the metacritic scores for that game versus a game from a competing console. To me that is more of a casual since you're not really playing the games. I would call someone who can tell you the hundreds of differences between the last six Madden games a hardcore gamer. I know guys that spend hundreds of dollars on VC for NBA 2K games every year and also spend thousands on the MYNBA2K companion app. I wouldn't consider those guys casual gamers in the least. 

This forum has people that will buy every new Tales of game, Final Fantasy, Persona, Fire Emblem etc. We call them real/hardcore gamers but then turn our noses up at those that purchase every new CoD, Madden, 2k, GTA, etc. and call them casual. That's just the nature of this particular site. Most here are comfortable with things that way so that's how it will stay.

I completely agree on this as far as yearly titles go. Again I will repeat what I have said before on this thread, is that all of us want to feel like the way we are playing games, is somehow superior to those who are passionate about sports games or shooters, or any genre/game we don't play. It is simply natural to want to satisfy our egos and, it is very much a subconscious process we don't actively have as much control over.

I believe it simply comes down to being involved with video games, and how passionate you are about them, regardless of what games you play. And it can be difficult to judge how passionate other communities are if you are not part of them, and often results in looking at them in a more negative light, because of intergroup bias.

Edit: If a person spends 600 hours on an RPG, or 600 hours on Fifa, I would argue they are just as passionate about their game.

Casuals spending more on those yearly titles or the odd GTA game doesn't make them not casuals.

Think  of it this way, casuals are primarily why games like COD sell so much. Gamers like us that you will find on forums is why games like Dark souls, Ni-Oh....etc can evn exist.



Mar1217 said:
Profrektius said:

This is actually a very interesting point. Right now most "neutral" gaming sites, are filled with Sony fanboys, upvoting everything positive about Sony, and downvoting anything negative about Sony, regardless of rationality. I remember back in 2009 or so, when the fanboys were more even between Xbox and Playstation, which then accurately represented the sales of the consoles as well. While I believe most of those are younger kids, who feel more strongly about the console their parents bought them, this kind of attitude seems to spread. People just like to hear positive things about their choice of console. In community driven places like this, it doesn't seem to be as much of a problem though, and since we have more people past their puberty and a lot of people who were gamers long before the turn of the millenium, there is a lot more varied and reasonable discussions here.

As to the OP. The majority of video game consumers, do not go to online forums and talk about games. We are the minority, the most passionate about games, and do not represent the majority.

What a lovely written piece ^^

Anyway, I agree.

No we do not represent "gamers nor does the majority represent them, why because the majority isn't some ubiquitous entity , it changes over time and depending on what section you are looking at

 What we do have here is not some authoritive body that dictates what is or isn't canon in the world of games, but simply a group of gamers who's knowledge of gaming and sales is above the norm , and like all hobbiest's we like having a platform to discuss our hobby.



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