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UnderstatedCornHole said:
Scoobes said:

Did you follow that chain of posts? It was about 'confirmation bias'. Look it up as you're obviously guilty of it.

Because the Right never does anything violent...

Guess what? People do stupid and violent shit regardless of their political or religious affiliations. 

Did you read my post?

No the right doesn't do anything violent, certainly not the vast majority of the right and that majority never normalizes any violence carried out by extreme right wing elements.

The left, oh yeah that's different, they will defend assualt, violence, terrorist threats and absolutely anything that furthers the cause of the left.

You don't need confirmation bias to see people even in this thread attempting to downplay someone setting the hair of another person on fire.

The right doesn't do that, ever.

Seriosuly, look up the definition of 'confirmation bias'. If you think the right doesn't do anything violent then you really do live in a little right-wing bubble. Maybe read a history book or two.

For now, I'll just leave these here.

http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/

http://europe.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743?rm=eu (up to 2015)

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/what-threat-united-states-today/#americas-layered-defenses (this is a more up to date than the last one)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/article492100/Missouri-man-charged-as-%E2%80%98straw-buyer%E2%80%99-in-Jewish-center-shootings-case.html

As for "majority", the majority of the left aren't violent either. You get idiots on both sides, shit like this happens and the people doing it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Stop thinking the group you affiliate with are any better than the "other" side. 



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ratuscafoarterea said:
monocle_layton said:

I don't want to go on a rant or go off topic, but the beginning of the video clearly shows that they're set out to demoralize an entire protest with 150,000 people just because less than 1% of the people were jackasses. Just look at the description. Their intention was most likely to show this to make it seem like the protest was a hidden attempt to let people do a bunch of stuff against non-protestors.

I'm not supporting this at all, but when people only care about news for the sake of satisfying their belief (i.e this group is bad/good, etc.), then we end up seeing a huge cluster of info wars.

I participated in a debate class last year during my final year in High School. Unfortunately, most people were either hardcore liberal or hardcore conservative (says a lot about the quality of the class, right?). We once had a debate about US politics, and it eventually turned into a "He said this" and "she did that" debate (if you could even call it a debate). One person would share an event done by a liberal, the other would counterattack with an event done by a conservative/religious nut, etc. Became even dumber when the class had a debate about feminism. Turned into hell. I honestly feel dumbfounded by how people can quickly take any sort of event and twist it upside down to satisfy their own egos. How did we become so humiliating?

American politics really need a reformation.

1%  ? I would love to see how did you came up with that number, because there’s plenty of videos out there showing anti-Trump protestors, rioting, physically abusing people that don’t agree with them,  spitting on police officers, and destroying private property.

 

You missed my point.

 

It was an underwhelming minority compared to the people who didn't cause damage. You obviously won't find a statistic, but realize that if it was anymore than 1-5% of all protestors, we would've been in some serious issues. Millions of people attended protests during trump's inauguration (not even including other protests). 



Scoobes said:
UnderstatedCornHole said:

Did you read my post?

No the right doesn't do anything violent, certainly not the vast majority of the right and that majority never normalizes any violence carried out by extreme right wing elements.

The left, oh yeah that's different, they will defend assualt, violence, terrorist threats and absolutely anything that furthers the cause of the left.

You don't need confirmation bias to see people even in this thread attempting to downplay someone setting the hair of another person on fire.

The right doesn't do that, ever.

Seriosuly, look up the definition of 'confirmation bias'. If you think the right doesn't do anything violent then you really do live in a little right-wing bubble. Maybe read a history book or two.

For now, I'll just leave these here.

http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/

http://europe.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743?rm=eu (up to 2015)

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/what-threat-united-states-today/#americas-layered-defenses (this is a more up to date than the last one)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/article492100/Missouri-man-charged-as-%E2%80%98straw-buyer%E2%80%99-in-Jewish-center-shootings-case.html

As for "majority", the majority of the left aren't violent either. You get idiots on both sides, shit like this happens and the people doing it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Stop thinking the group you affiliate with are any better than the "other" side. 

The problem is that you have too many of the representants of the left wing condoning with the acts of violence.

In Brazil almost all heads of social movements defend violance and depredation



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Well that's extreme. Hopefully she gets caught, this is the type of stuff that makes politics look terrible when you constantly hear about people doing stuff like this. I realize it's the vocal few that do extreme things like this but it really just pushes people away from wanting to get involved in anything related to it, which ultimately hurts all causes ironically enough. 

Edit: I'm editing this comment to rewrite it and better accurately portray what I intended to say at the time, as my original was poorly written. 

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Don't worry it only counts when a trump supporter does it.

/S



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NightDragon83 said:
monocle_layton said:

I don't want to go on a rant or go off topic, but the beginning of the video clearly shows that they're set out to demoralize an entire protest with 150,000 people just because less than 1% of the people were jackasses. Just look at the description. Their intention was most likely to show this to make it seem like the protest was a hidden attempt to let people do a bunch of stuff against non-protestors.

I'm not supporting this at all, but when people only care about news for the sake of satisfying their belief (i.e this group is bad/good, etc.), then we end up seeing a huge cluster of info wars.

I participated in a debate class last year during my final year in High School. Unfortunately, most people were either hardcore liberal or hardcore conservative (says a lot about the quality of the class, right?). We once had a debate about US politics, and it eventually turned into a "He said this" and "she did that" debate (if you could even call it a debate). One person would share an event done by a liberal, the other would counterattack with an event done by a conservative/religious nut, etc. Became even dumber when the class had a debate about feminism. Turned into hell. I honestly feel dumbfounded by how people can quickly take any sort of event and twist it upside down to satisfy their own egos. How did we become so humiliating?

American politics really need a reformation.

Dude, hundreds of thousands of people protested Obama at various "tea party" rallies and such over the previous 8 years, and there was NOTHING at any of those protests even remotely close to the violence that has occurred at protests and demonstrations just days into Trump's term in office.  We've already had Trump supporters sucker punched and beaten, and plenty of destruction occurred during the anti-Trump protests after the November election.

Between the post-election protests back in November and the violence we saw in the streets the day before and during Inauguration Day, there's been more violence at anti-Trump protests these past couple months than during all the anti-Obama rallies in 8 years combined.  The only thing more violent in recent memory has been some of the Black Lives Matter riots protests, and again its usually left-wing agitators helping to escalate things and fan the flames at those protests as well.

I agree with this. Anti-Trump protestors seem a lot more violent than the other protestors who get mentioned when people want to defend them. I find it rather dishonest for someone to claim "both sides are equally as bad"... No, not at all.

Like you mentioned, the level  of  violence of Anti-Trump protestors far outweighs the anti-Obama protestors.  Sure it is a minority of all the anti trump people who do these shitty things but is that really a reasonable argument when violence is occuring so often? Nobody is saying most anti-Trump protestors light people on fire but rather that violence is a very serious concern at these protest, more so then it should be. Imagine if only 1% of KKK members lynched people...... and there were a million KKK members! The threat of violence in this case is VERY real and there is clearly something about the movement causing these people to commit violence. An extreme example, I know, but I want to point out that just because it is a small minority doesn't mean it should be overlooked. In this case would anybody ever dare say "well it is less than %1 of them doing this, most of them are non-violent". The anti-Trump people are more violent than other peaceful protestors, we should try and understand the cause of this as clearly it has something to do with the movement itself. I think the cause is when the media (Young Turk's Ana Kasparian being the worst) and Hillary Clinton claims every single Trump supporter are bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, islamaphobic, transphobic and xenophobic. To most reasonable people this is just silly, but many people actually believe it (especially college student on my campus). Who really feels bad when a person who is all these things is assualted? A lot of the anti-trump people become detached from reality. picture an actual Nazi getting punched by Jewish man or a black man punching a KKK member. That is how anti-trump liberals view themselves as they punch a Trump supporter.

 

Have you seen what happens at every Milo Yianopolis college speech? at literally every single one of them protestors arrive to block the entrance from people to get into the lecture hall. and in most of the recent ones it turns violent as the protestors start screaming and assualting people (usually spitting on them or shoving). These protests are mostly because Milo is a Trump supporter lol. If Milo were to come to any big University across the western world, it is almost certain crazed protestors will show up to intimidate the attendees. Once again a minority by far but the threat they present is very real and in this case it is literally unavoidable for most who want to see Milo speak.



Ruler said:
monocle_layton said:

I don't want to go on a rant or go off topic, but the beginning of the video clearly shows that they're set out to demoralize an entire protest with 150,000 people just because less than 1% of the people were jackasses. Just look at the description. Their intention was most likely to show this to make it seem like the protest was a hidden attempt to let people do a bunch of stuff against non-protestors.

I'm not supporting this at all, but when people only care about news for the sake of satisfying their belief (i.e this group is bad/good, etc.), then we end up seeing a huge cluster of info wars.

I participated in a debate class last year during my final year in High School. Unfortunately, most people were either hardcore liberal or hardcore conservative (says a lot about the quality of the class, right?). We once had a debate about US politics, and it eventually turned into a "He said this" and "she did that" debate (if you could even call it a debate). One person would share an event done by a liberal, the other would counterattack with an event done by a conservative/religious nut, etc. Became even dumber when the class had a debate about feminism. Turned into hell. I honestly feel dumbfounded by how people can quickly take any sort of event and twist it upside down to satisfy their own egos. How did we become so humiliating?

American politics really need a reformation.

So you support burning other peoples hair? 

Weird isn't it... 

On an unrelated side note, I support burning Yona's hair! 



Thuglas said:
NightDragon83 said:

Dude, hundreds of thousands of people protested Obama at various "tea party" rallies and such over the previous 8 years, and there was NOTHING at any of those protests even remotely close to the violence that has occurred at protests and demonstrations just days into Trump's term in office.  We've already had Trump supporters sucker punched and beaten, and plenty of destruction occurred during the anti-Trump protests after the November election.

Between the post-election protests back in November and the violence we saw in the streets the day before and during Inauguration Day, there's been more violence at anti-Trump protests these past couple months than during all the anti-Obama rallies in 8 years combined.  The only thing more violent in recent memory has been some of the Black Lives Matter riots protests, and again its usually left-wing agitators helping to escalate things and fan the flames at those protests as well.

I agree with this. Anti-Trump protestors seem a lot more violent than the other protestors who get mentioned when people want to defend them. I find it rather dishonest for someone to claim "both sides are equally as bad"... No, not at all.

Like you mentioned, the level  of  violence of Anti-Trump protestors far outweighs the anti-Obama protestors.  Sure it is a minority of all the anti trump people who do these shitty things but is that really a reasonable argument when violence is occuring so often? Nobody is saying most anti-Trump protestors light people on fire but rather that violence is a very serious concern at these protest, more so then it should be. Imagine if only 1% of KKK members lynched people...... and there were a million KKK members! The threat of violence in this case is VERY real and there is clearly something about the movement causing these people to commit violence. An extreme example, I know, but I want to point out that just because it is a small minority doesn't mean it should be overlooked. In this case would anybody ever dare say "well it is less than %1 of them doing this, most of them are non-violent". The anti-Trump people are more violent than other peaceful protestors, we should try and understand the cause of this as clearly it has something to do with the movement itself. I think the cause is when the media (Young Turk's Ana Kasparian being the worst) and Hillary Clinton claims every single Trump supporter are bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, islamaphobic, transphobic and xenophobic. To most reasonable people this is just silly, but many people actually believe it (especially college student on my campus). Who really feels bad when a person who is all these things is assualted? A lot of the anti-trump people become detached from reality. picture an actual Nazi getting punched by Jewish man or a black man punching a KKK member. That is how anti-trump liberals view themselves as they punch a Trump supporter.

 

Have you seen what happens at every Milo Yianopolis college speech? at literally every single one of them protestors arrive to block the entrance from people to get into the lecture hall. and in most of the recent ones it turns violent as the protestors start screaming and assualting people (usually spitting on them or shoving). These protests are mostly because Milo is a Trump supporter lol. If Milo were to come to any big University across the western world, it is almost certain crazed protestors will show up to intimidate the attendees. Once again a minority by far but the threat they present is very real and in this case it is literally unavoidable for most who want to see Milo speak.

Just to give some more info on that...

It's quite common that the head of several movements in Brazil that are linked to left wing incentivate the disturbances, violance and the like.

The head of MST, MTST, CUT and some political parties publically say that rightwing deserve to die, to be shot down, etc.



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Scoobes said:
UnderstatedCornHole said:

Did you read my post?

No the right doesn't do anything violent, certainly not the vast majority of the right and that majority never normalizes any violence carried out by extreme right wing elements.

The left, oh yeah that's different, they will defend assualt, violence, terrorist threats and absolutely anything that furthers the cause of the left.

You don't need confirmation bias to see people even in this thread attempting to downplay someone setting the hair of another person on fire.

The right doesn't do that, ever.

Seriosuly, look up the definition of 'confirmation bias'. If you think the right doesn't do anything violent then you really do live in a little right-wing bubble. Maybe read a history book or two.

For now, I'll just leave these here.

http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/

http://europe.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743?rm=eu (up to 2015)

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/terrorism-in-america/what-threat-united-states-today/#americas-layered-defenses (this is a more up to date than the last one)

http://www.kansascity.com/news/article492100/Missouri-man-charged-as-%E2%80%98straw-buyer%E2%80%99-in-Jewish-center-shootings-case.html

As for "majority", the majority of the left aren't violent either. You get idiots on both sides, shit like this happens and the people doing it should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Stop thinking the group you affiliate with are any better than the "other" side. 

I'm not talking about history I'm talking about now, recent times past year or so.

Just like I couldn't give a fuck about salty African Americans who have suffered nothing but want to cash in on suffering of ancestors.

That Trump supporter that punched a protestor last year. That was stupid and I hope the guy was prosecuted and there no excuse for it.

That's literally the only example of violence that has been verified as factually correct from the general right.

You don't get riots, smashed commercial premises, masked Mexican immigrants threatening women, people wearing a certain red hat getting attacked...

 

Apart from the left.

 

This isn't confirmation bias, I watch all the news channels and a broad internet assortment of news. Every single time the left acts like children and never gets taken to task about it.

 

Trump supports the KKK etc etc etc!!!!!

Gimme a break

Left liberal lying machine has you all so wired up it physically isn't possible to see the truth.

 

I used to be liberal btw. I can be honest because of that and can see things for what they are, more or less.



Thuglas said:
NightDragon83 said:

Dude, hundreds of thousands of people protested Obama at various "tea party" rallies and such over the previous 8 years, and there was NOTHING at any of those protests even remotely close to the violence that has occurred at protests and demonstrations just days into Trump's term in office.  We've already had Trump supporters sucker punched and beaten, and plenty of destruction occurred during the anti-Trump protests after the November election.

Between the post-election protests back in November and the violence we saw in the streets the day before and during Inauguration Day, there's been more violence at anti-Trump protests these past couple months than during all the anti-Obama rallies in 8 years combined.  The only thing more violent in recent memory has been some of the Black Lives Matter riots protests, and again its usually left-wing agitators helping to escalate things and fan the flames at those protests as well.

I agree with this. Anti-Trump protestors seem a lot more violent than the other protestors who get mentioned when people want to defend them. I find it rather dishonest for someone to claim "both sides are equally as bad"... No, not at all.

Like you mentioned, the level  of  violence of Anti-Trump protestors far outweighs the anti-Obama protestors.  Sure it is a minority of all the anti trump people who do these shitty things but is that really a reasonable argument when violence is occuring so often? Nobody is saying most anti-Trump protestors light people on fire but rather that violence is a very serious concern at these protest, more so then it should be. Imagine if only 1% of KKK members lynched people...... and there were a million KKK members! The threat of violence in this case is VERY real and there is clearly something about the movement causing these people to commit violence. An extreme example, I know, but I want to point out that just because it is a small minority doesn't mean it should be overlooked. In this case would anybody ever dare say "well it is less than %1 of them doing this, most of them are non-violent". The anti-Trump people are more violent than other peaceful protestors, we should try and understand the cause of this as clearly it has something to do with the movement itself. I think the cause is when the media (Young Turk's Ana Kasparian being the worst) and Hillary Clinton claims every single Trump supporter are bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic, islamaphobic, transphobic and xenophobic. To most reasonable people this is just silly, but many people actually believe it (especially college student on my campus). Who really feels bad when a person who is all these things is assualted? A lot of the anti-trump people become detached from reality. picture an actual Nazi getting punched by Jewish man or a black man punching a KKK member. That is how anti-trump liberals view themselves as they punch a Trump supporter.

 

Have you seen what happens at every Milo Yianopolis college speech? at literally every single one of them protestors arrive to block the entrance from people to get into the lecture hall. and in most of the recent ones it turns violent as the protestors start screaming and assualting people (usually spitting on them or shoving). These protests are mostly because Milo is a Trump supporter lol. If Milo were to come to any big University across the western world, it is almost certain crazed protestors will show up to intimidate the attendees. Once again a minority by far but the threat they present is very real and in this case it is literally unavoidable for most who want to see Milo speak.

Good Post.