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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Mario Odyssey is successor Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine, not to Galaxy and 3D Land/World

mountaindewslave on 16 January 2017
MegaDrive08 said:
I just cant get excited about the system, ive not seen one game that really makes me exicted to get one apart from Xenoblade2, i think im going to sit this one out.

no offense but you have a Genesis profile picture and a quote about supporting Sega, I don't think anyone will be that shocked that you're not rushing in to buy the newest Nintendo console 



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mountaindewslave on 16 January 2017
BraLoD said:
Aerys said:

I said it for years that Galaxy and 3D World were not réal Mario 3D as Mario 64 inventéd thème but Nintendo fans were mocking me.

Now you see ? I was right, Nintendo agrees
WE, true fans, waited 15 years for thé réal successorale of thé 2 first real 3D Mario

You are taking things a bit out of context.
Neither does it means Galaxy and 3D World were not "real Mario 3D" neither did Nintendo ever agreed with it.

They had a different formula, from each other as well, even as more linear focused games, but that doesn't exclude them from being 3D Mario games, as both were 3D games, 3D World even has it on its name

I'm not a "true fan" by your definition, tho, as Galaxy and 3D World where amazing games and got me into finally liking the transistion from 2D to 3D in the series, as Bros. 3 and World were SO MUCH better than 64 and Sunshine.

Super Mario 64 maybe has dated poorly given that it was the first 3D Mario game, that's sort of natural. Just like Final Fantasy 7 is somewhat poorly aged, which naturally often occurs with the first foray into 3D gaming. Point being though, both Mario 64 and FF 7 are fantastic games, regardless of aging. You have to look a LITTLE bit into the context of when they were made too, obviously. It's like going back and watching King Kong from the 1930s and comparing it with Peter Jackson's King Kong.

yes, obviously the newer King Kong will immerse you more and be more believeable at this point. but is it a better film? given the context of when they were made and the effect on the respective industry- no, the new one isn't better. I think the same arguably applies to something like Mario 64, context is extremely relevant and I'm not sure, say, Mario Galaxy, is automatically better than Mario 64 when it takes so much from the previous title

100% disagree about Sunshine though. The game is extremely innovative with its controls and jetpack (not at all like Mario 64 in terms of the jumping and camera) and also extremely innovative with its level structure and types of new enemies. It also has aged fantastically graphically

 

I will agree with the last point though, the likes of Mario Bros 3 and Mario World destroy any new Mario that came after, whether its a Sunshine or Galaxy. Those are some of the best games ever created and are extremely timeless, you can watch someone playing Mario Bros. 3 now and it looks as great and fun as it did decades ago



Jranation on 16 January 2017

Yep! This is going to be another awesome 3D Mario!!!



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Wright on 16 January 2017

Well, it was kinda obvious by the trailer, no? That roam-free aspect of it, there was almost none in 3D Land/World and extremely restricted in Galaxy, but plenty of it in 64 and Sunshine.

Gotta see what the eye-cap of Mario can be capable of, but I'll miss the aquatic-system of Fludd.



Frogger on 16 January 2017
BraLoD said:
We know it just by looking at XP

Galaxy and 3D World where so much better than 64 and Sunshine, tho...


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FarleyMcFirefly on 16 January 2017

Galaxy/2/3D Land/World are all so much better than 64/Sunshine... Especially Sunshine.

Odyssey looks fantastic though.



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outlawauron on 16 January 2017

It rustles my jimmies to see 3D World and Galaxy together.



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Goodnightmoon on 16 January 2017
vivster said:
I guess that will shut up those people claiming 3D world is the same as Mario 64.

So absolutely no one.



Aerys on 16 January 2017
pray4mojo said:
Miyamoto also said that unlike Galaxy and 3D World, this Mario is going to be for "core gamers". Shots fired.

WE, Old Nintendo fans, always knew that Galaxy and 3D World were more casual than hardcore games liké Sunshine 



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h2ohno on 16 January 2017

Seems like a middle ground between 64 and Galaxy to me. Galaxy 1 may have had less exploration, but it was still structured like 64 and Sunshine, so I don't think it's fair to group it with 3d land and world. Odessey looks great.