Yeah it gets into an area of semantics. What you and I may consider to be an innovation someone else could label gimmick, again semantics but this time coupled with perception. Although I would consider clickable sticks to be an evolution (by your standards) as they added two more "buttons" to the controller and are used in many games for sprint freeing other buttons for other functions without cluttering the controller further.  I would consider changing the analog sticks to rubber tipped and making them convex to iterative again going by your standards.

Perception is a powerful thing but by definition any change to the established norm even within a brand is an innovation. I would have to say all the big three innovate but Nintendo is the most daring with their innovations.

I use punctuation. I did have one sentence 55 words total but after word 21 (I forgot to put a colon) it was examples and the person I was talking to didn't accuse me of being unclear.  I wasn't trying to attack you just give you constructive criticism.  Don't take it personally.  I didn't think English was your first language and if I'm not wrong then your command of it is quite impressive.  You're from Brazil right?

I think arguments like this make absolutely no sense whatsoever! With the form factor of the WiiU I can understand people's gripes with it being underpowered. But neither the PS4 or XbOne are remotely portable in any shape or form... Saying that the Switch should have used better tech, from who and how much would this device have cost? The Switch runs UE4 a modern up to date engine that the other systems use as well.

Aonuma has stated that Zelda does not max out the Switch hardware, so it not reaching 1080p or not having vastly improved visuals probably has more to do with the game being a port than anything.

Of course.

I bought all nintendo system since gameboy, but it's enough now, and totally not worth it.

It's past time for them to go third party. I've owned every Nintendo home console, and every handheld since GB advance. I love Nintendo games. But, at this point, their games are being held back by weak hardware.

BOTW is a great example. It is an excellent game. But, it looks like an early X360/PS3 game, graphically. The frame rate issues remind me of gaming in the 90s. If it were on modern hardware, these problems wouldn't exist. It also would sell 3-4 times as many copies.

With all of that said, I suppose their sales tell us that they should stay in the handheld business. And, that's fine. It does not then follow that they must stay in the home console business as well.

This thread is back again..? No BraLoD, I don't agree. I like Nintendo's hardware and the innovative ideas they've been trying to go for with their hardware. The Switch is another cool system which I really enjoy and has great potential in it. If Nintendo bowed out of the hardware space, we wouldn't have gotten such a system. If anything, I'd like if more 3rd parties would bring their games to the Switch, as I'm not really interested in the 1st party titles offered by the competition. It would be more convenient for me if it was done that way.

In four years they will announce they are going third party.

Mark it down, bump this post in four years.

I've wanted that for years. I want everyone to be able to play everything. Especially with the PS4 and the Xbone basically just being the Sony Xbox and the Microsoft Playstation, what we essentially have is a decidedly standardised format arbitrarily split into two privately owned formats.
Exclusives are not a console giving you a game you want, they are a console holding a game you want hostage.
I'm loving Breath of the Wild, but if I love something I tell my friends to play it, I don't want to always have to follow it with "oh... but you'll have to buy a Switch first" and then that groaning look of "But I already bought a console! Why do I need three?!"
Oh and people will say "what's the big deal, that's how it's always been". Yeah, it has, and it was just as stupid when we were kids waging all out war on the playground with a line drawn between those who bought Nintendo and those who bought Sega.

Their games wouldn't run on Nintendo hardware, it's too weak.

Thankfully, for high end PC owners, Nintendo more or less is third party :)

Why would the Nintendo be their third console if the other two are interchangeable? ... you have silly friends.  Well we should all just say fuck consoles all together you can either game on your phone or PC, options aren't good for people ....  if people are too stupid or poor to game on a good PC fuck em they can play candy crush with the rest of the casual crowd. While we are at it all restaurants should go out of business they take up too much space as individuals. I don't want to go to Taco Bell and Pizza Hut when i want pizza and taco's that's extra driving and far too inconvenient for my entitled ass. Shit let's take it a step farther and Amazon can sell us everything, fuck all other businesses, one stop shopping so i only have to go one place for EVERYTHING. That would work out great for the consumers: limited choice, lower quality, and getting raped on pricing because competition is BAD!


Sorry for the triggered reaction this really wasn't solely directed at you just all the individuals here port begging because they don't want to pay for what they want.