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Jaicee on 23 July 2020

Thanks for taking the time out of your days to address my concerns (all). I feel a lot better about things now. We're all good!

(On this side topic about down-votes being optional in the news section, since I don't think I've weighed in on that topic directly before, without getting into an actual convo on the topic here, I would just like to causally register my opposition to the thumbs-down option. I mean just as someone who's been on the receiving end of it before, it definitely feels different -- worse and more discouraging -- to be affirmatively down-voted than it does to just not be up-voted. The inclusion of options like that I think pressures people to steer themselves away from offering unpopular opinions at all. I would also be up for what Hiku suggested about making it so we can see WHO up-voted (or down-voted if we really have to keep that option there) which posts because, to be honest, there are some people around who's opinions I simply don't care about and will discount on sight if I know it's their vote. Like I said, not trying to get into a whole convo about that, as yeah, it would be better had in another thread, but just as a standalone remark, wanted to register my opinion without further debating it here.)



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Nautilus on 25 July 2020
Ryuu96 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I'd argue that the idea that the ability to ignore said problematic users should be locked behind a paywall is an even weirder mindset.

Wouldn't mind it being free personally but that'd be more of a conversation to have with Machina/Talon and the staff that actually get money via supporter.

Just to chip in my opinion:

I think blocking someone posts is utterly stupid in a forum. Outside of not being able to see when some specific user makes a topic(because this way you block certain topic conversation that said user always comes up with, and would be the same as filtering out Politics for example), having the ability to not see what that user posted simply kills conversation.

It's counterproductive to the enviroment we are trying to foster. And that's especially true for VGC, which is trying to rise from the ashes. I already find stupid that you can block someone from visiting your profile, but outright not seeing what someone wrote will just make this forum hit a wall. The conversations will get more and more one sided, simply because the people that usually brings the other side of the coin into the conversation is already probably blocked, because some users don't have a drop of self control.

Just my two cents.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

COKTOE on 25 July 2020
Nautilus said:
Ryuu96 said:

Wouldn't mind it being free personally but that'd be more of a conversation to have with Machina/Talon and the staff that actually get money via supporter.

Just to chip in my opinion:

I think blocking someone posts is utterly stupid in a forum. Outside of not being able to see when some specific user makes a topic(because this way you block certain topic conversation that said user always comes up with, and would be the same as filtering out Politics for example), having the ability to not see what that user posted simply kills conversation.

It's counterproductive to the enviroment we are trying to foster. And that's especially true for VGC, which is trying to rise from the ashes. I already find stupid that you can block someone from visiting your profile, but outright not seeing what someone wrote will just make this forum hit a wall. The conversations will get more and more one sided, simply because the people that usually brings the other side of the coin into the conversation is already probably blocked, because some users don't have a drop of self control.

Just my two cents.

Agreed with your post in general, but the bolded is something that should be done away with. If you're on vgchartz, your profile should be visible. Either you're here or you aren't. One thing I've done on a few separate occasions, is to look at a member's post history if I've noticed a pattern. It can help with accountability, and to get to know the various members. For better or for worse.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

COKTOE on 25 July 2020
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
If i could block people my time Here would BE improved 10 Times , doubt they Will implement it

So you wouldn't want to see what you're favorite jackass had to say, and why it attracted so much attention?

Seriously though, I wouldn't want to put myself out of the loop like that. Also, when blocking a member, are all quoted responses blocked as well? Sorry for the continued derailment, but the whip hasn't been cracked yet, and I'm curious.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

kirby007 on 25 July 2020
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
If i could block people my time Here would BE improved 10 Times , doubt they Will implement it

But babe would you pay for supporter to miss my posts?



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Immersiveunreality on 26 July 2020

The ability to be able to block users as a supporter is counterproductive for a forum and it is some form of entitlement to think that a forum needs to shape to only let you see what you like to see and if you let random opinions get to you this much then that might suggest you could try to change how you approach things in order to deal with it in a more mature way.
Social bubbles are not that good and it only fragments conversation,like twitter.

My opinion ofcourse.

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Jumpin on 26 July 2020

Forum Rules
A) Thread Titles:
"Should not include inappropriate/foul language."

Ah! This explains why that thread title I wrote in German got moderated. You guys consider German to be a foul language.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Immersiveunreality on 26 July 2020
Jumpin said:

Forum Rules
A) Thread Titles:
"Should not include inappropriate/foul language."

Ah! This explains why that thread title I wrote in German got moderated. You guys consider German to be a foul language.

I mostly find germans swearing adorable.



Moren on 26 July 2020
CGI-Quality said:
John2290 said:

I was going to post this in the "This place is getting deserted" thread but I decided here was more appropriate so I have a query on behalf of someone else, this user below who was banned for this post. I missed the reasoning since they are unbanned but I was wondering, just why? This site was built on console wars and this user decided to create and account and post, was given no leniency or a warning and most likely will never post here again. Are the mods actively trying to keep the site from seeing any boom come the generation swap? 

I see nothing wrong with this post in fact, it's quite accurate but aside from that, if you ban for memes on new users with no regard to giving a warning you're just killing any chance this forum has to see new users take the place of the old users, let alone see a boom with people who have buyers anxiety when the 9th gen arrives. The numbers are gone, this is all that is left. Just why?

Ya know, I honestly see both sides of this argument (though this site was not built on the basis of console wars ). For JWein, I see why he would feel a need to take action, given it was a brand new account and its only post is an example of mild trolling (we are harsher on newer accounts). 

On the other? I get why it would frustrate people to see what could be perceived as mild trolling via a meme receive such harsh punishment. Though you have no idea of the user will ever post here again, it is a fair assumption to make. 

So, let's tackle it another way. What makes the post accurate? Was it fair to take that shot at Halo? Why? Would such a post have caused any further issues in that thread had it been left as it was? I'm open to hearing your feedback (though in the future, PM the mod in question first).

Seems pretty unreasonable to me to "both sides" this. There was clear and transparent intent with the "mild meme" to rile up the XBOX fanbase, and I'm willing to bet that would be better explained and understood from someone coming from the XBOX community.

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Moren on 26 July 2020
CGI-Quality said:
Moren said:

Seems pretty unreasonable to me to "both sides" this. There was clear and transparent intent with the "mild meme" to rile up the XBOX fanbase, and I'm willing to bet that would be better explained and understood from someone coming from the XBOX community.

If both sides had the same weight, he wouldn't have been moderated (or received a lighter moderation). As the moderation still stands, it is obvious what the bottom line is. I simply see both sides of an argument that could be made (nothing unreasonable about suggesting a warning before acting on someone who's never seen a moderation, but in certain circumstances, like a new account [and one that takes things to this level on their first post], we are less forgiving).

But as a head moderator, you are lending credibility to a "both sides" argument. It was another mod who made the moderation, and you followed up by calling the post mild. Intentionally or not, this influences user behavior and even moderator behavior. Had you been the one who made the ban and followed up with discussion, then I could understand where you are coming from.