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Wyrdness said:
niceguygameplayer said:

Dumb? How do you know the rumor is BS? Because you want it to he maybe? Based on the last 2 Nintendo systems, this sounds credible, but I will be happy to be wrong.

For one the clue is that he's a former Ubisoft employee so he doesn't know anything about the devkits or the Switch if you read the article itself he's commenting on the rumours so essentially you're believing a rumour that is speculating on another rumour.

^ This post did this to my face..what am I doing? I do not know this emotion...



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niceguygameplayer said:

Update: I said if what the guy said is true. Also, in hindsight, a new year blog could be more positive and I should have waited for the official unveiling soon. Poor timing on my part. I will take your criticisms constructively. I have been moderated twice and wish to improve with my threads. Thanks for the feedback guys. Next thread will be positive.

If what the ex Ubisoft worker said is true about how weak the Switch is, that's it. Nintendo will not learn. Another failure is coming out. Sorry to say it guys, but I just don't see any reason to want this unless you are a Nintendo diehard. 


They need to make a powerful next gen console that can handle modern ports and really good looking 3D Mario. Weaker than Xbox One when PS4 Pro is out and Scorpio is coming soon? That's ridiculous! 


It might work in Japan, but everywhere else, it will bomb after initial release. It sounds like a slightly more powerful Wii U. I will buy no Switch or future Nintendo products.

This is the same thing you posted in the other thread and you never replied to what i said so ill rewrite it here.

You do realize that Switch is not only the successor to Wii U but also 3DS?

3DS+Wii U have sold over 50 million outside of Japan so I dont understand why you think Japan is the only market where Switch has potential to do well.

You really arent presenting a case for why you think it will fail other than "its weak" yet ignore that Nintendo has had multiple devices sell well despite being weak. You dont have a legit argument.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Sales will determine support and support will determine sales. My opinion had been all over the board in regards to the Switch but, in the end, it seems to be a worthwhile purchase. I now think it has the potential to be a phenomenon despite my recent exodus from portable gaming.



Areym said:
I kinda agree. The Wii U had great games but still did not move units. There were a ton of factors and anybody in the know will tell you that, but in the eye of the consumer, the Wii U didn't look or performed like a 8th gen console.

Yes, Wii U had great games but it also had constant droughts meaning those great titles were few and far between, along with a poor concept, poor marketing and a poor price for what it offered. 2-3 great games a year wont offset all those problems that Wii U had.

Switch is not gauranteed to be a success but the concept of a hybrid device with a unifed software library is a much better concept than glasses free 3D or controller with a screen so as long as the device is priced appropriately, has a strong marketing campaign and a steady flow of quality games (consolidating support of 3DS & Wii U should do it) than it has potential to do well.

Being weak had very little to do with Wii U failing.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

If the specs are correct and if it was a standalone console you would be correct. The fact that it is basically a portable console that docks (and is more powerful when docked) I have to disagree with you. Nintendo's handhelds sell reasonably well. Will it have DS success? No. I do believe sales will be similar to 3DS if the price point is attractive. Time will only tell.



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niceguygameplayer said:
FloatingWaffles said:

You really couldn't wait 12 more days to see the event and what will actually officially be announced before making a thread like this based on a single "rumour" out of the tons there have been about the Switch?

Maybe you are right, and I jumped the gun some. I do hope to hear better news.

 

I think some people are just more prone to believe a rumour like this rather than some more positive ones since Nintendo has done it in the past with going with weaker hardware to make it cheaper on price so they feel like it's just Nintendo doing the same thing again and wouldn't surpise them. Others rumors/leaks in the past from people like Emily Rogers and more have said that the Switch is easy to develop for and port to and that hardware wouldn't be an issue, if that makes you feel any better, so this 'rumor' is just one single one that is contradicting with what other people like Emily Rogers have said. 

I hope that's not the case and I still hope the Switch is closer to Xbox One at least in terms of power, even if a little behind it, but at least we'll know in 12 days. Just as long as it's powerful enough to get third party games still I think it will be fine, and judging from the list of developers that are supporting the Switch, which is bigger than any other list of third party partners Nintendo has ever had, I think that will most likely be the case. 

Even if it's a scenario like the Wii and Wii U again though where a lot of third party games skipped it because it was weaker or something (which again I hope isn't the case for the Switch), I still think the Switch will be successful though, just for the simple fact that Nintendo can just focus on one platform now for making it a hybrid of both their console and handhelds. Imagine all the games that can now just be on a single system instead of just being on seperate handheld or console: Pokemon, Yokai Watch, Dragon Quest, Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Monster Hunter, and so many more. So now the games that sold Wii U systems and games that sold 3DS systems are now all going to be on a single device, which is great because now it can sell a single system together.

60m people bought the 3DS for its library of games, which are now all going to be games on a single device, just like 13m people bought a Wii U for its library of games which are also going to be on one device now.  Games that would originally be developed on handheld only and not console are gonna be on a single platform and vice-versa.



I love it when people say the Switch will be weak. The vast majority of "good" games could be made with PS2 level graphics. The only important difference between the PS3/360 generation and this one is better ram. Yes, the PS4 is about five or six times faster than the Wii U. But complaining that the Wii U is too weak, is like complaining that a plane can only get you from New York to San Fransisco in six seconds, when the competition can get you there in one second. We've reached a point where a piece of hardware can be utterly outdated, and it doesn't matter, because utterly outdated is still insanely fast. And if Nintendo can offer something that is utterly outdated, but undercut the compitition by a couple hundred dollars, then they win. To use the plane analogy again, would you pay $600 for that one second flight to SF, when the six second flight is only $300? 



Sales will determine support and support will determine sales. My opinion had been all over the board in regards to the Switch but, in the end, it seems to be a worthwhile purchase. I now think it has the potential to be a phenomenon despite my recent exodus from portable gaming.

 

*Edit* what the heck



wow worst topic of 2017 already...



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The way I see it, there is a good chance the Switch will fail as a home console.

Hold on, take your hands off the keyboard and let me finish.

I think it might fail as a home console while still being successful as a handheld--if it's cheap enough. With most consumers in the west, I don't think the Switch is going to do all that well with people who go in thinking that they really want the top home console games and the best home console experience. I think Xbox and Playstation are still going to be more popular as answers to that question.

That doesn't cover every consumer, however. There will be those who really want a handheld and those who really want a hybrid. That's Nintendo's market to lose. Honestly, I think they should really emphasize that difference in advertising instead of going at Sony and Microsoft head-on with a "home console".

That, of course, is supposing that the rumors are true and the Switch won't have full western home console support.