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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

exclusive_console on 09 December 2016

This is not surprising but everyone wants to know the difference.



 

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Intrinsic on 09 December 2016
EricHiggin said:

What you showed me was my post, using general terminology. 1) Where I specifically said NPD I'm not sure, because I dont remember pointing to that exactly.

You however seem to think everytime I say anything like "sales" that it means NPD numbers. Why you think this I don't know, but I don't see 2) how its not obvious that's not what I was talking about. If you haven't come to that conclusion, then you just don't get it, or your trolling, either way, it doesn't change what I meant.

this will be my last reply to you. 

  1. this is an NPD thread. And you have cited me on multiple occasions where I said it would be good to see NPD numbers. Sowhat are you saying?
  2. that's BS. You talked about a lack of numbers. And specifically said Sony had been boasting with numbers for years and now are not. If you are talking about Global sales and not NPD then surely you are aware that two or three days ago Sony just announced GLOBAL numbers of 50M? How can you possibly say you aren't talking about NPD but global numbers and how Sony is not releasing them anymore when they clearly are and have? And when in my first reply to you I Pointed that very thing out? 
And yet I am the one trolling? Your argument is all over the place. you are constantly changing what you are saying. Now you are saying that in an NPD thread, and in reply to people talking about the lack of NPD numbers, you called Sony out for changing how they do things and not show numbers but you were referring to global numbers. which doesn't make sense cause Sony just released global numners days before the NPD......... smh. 


FIT_Gamer on 09 December 2016
jason1637 said:
Theres a rumor going around saying PS4 won by 100k. If true its close to the 150k lead i was saying.

That rumor comes from a fanboy site that is in cahoots with Crapgamer so I doubt it's credible. 



Fei-Hung on 09 December 2016

Even if the 100k NPD is real, WW is bigger than NPD. This gen Sony has capitalised on parts of the world by growing their userbase that they hadn't before. The total WW BF number is all that matters.

Anyone know how many units they approximately sold between BF and their 3Rd December date?



Kerotan on 09 December 2016
Aura7541 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Same. Maybe it's a lot higher. I expected easily half a million and even higher given how all we heard here and on GAF was that it was a guaranteed slaughter.

Definitely not on GAF because the aggregate predictions had the PS4 beating the XBO by less than 200K.

The truth always surfaces.  Good post! 



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jason1637 on 10 December 2016
FIT_Gamer said:
jason1637 said:
Theres a rumor going around saying PS4 won by 100k. If true its close to the 150k lead i was saying.

That rumor comes from a fanboy site that is in cahoots with Crapgamer so I doubt it's credible. 

Ok lets see how it compares to the real numbers.



Kerotan on 10 December 2016
Jranation said:
WebMasterFlex said:
It seems PS4's victory hurts some people. Be grateful there is no Europe NPD...

Where have you been in the last couple months? Because XONE streak also hurt quite a few people. 

 

No surprise! People will get hurt no matter who wins. 

What about the Nintendo fans? 

 

Hello darkness my old friend.... 



Ali_16x on 10 December 2016
jason1637 said:
FIT_Gamer said:

That rumor comes from a fanboy site that is in cahoots with Crapgamer so I doubt it's credible. 

Ok lets see how it compares to the real numbers.

I don't think this is the first time you've posted content/things related to Crapgamer. How in gods name can you follow him and them.



"There is only one race, the pathetic begging race"

EricHiggin on 10 December 2016
Intrinsic said:
Ok.. I've got to know. Why don't sony/ms release numbers? Especially puzzling for sony. Why is it ok to announce 50M sold but not release their NPD numbers?

 

Intrinsic said:
VGPolyglot said:

Maybe NPD owns the copyrights to the numbers, and only allow Sony/Microsoft to give out certain information?

Yes NPD owns the rights to the numbers. And MS and co. pay to get accesss to those numbers on the grounds that they can't share the information. But that's put in place so Sony doesnt go announcing to the world what MS numbers are if MS doesmt want the world to know. 

What I don't know tho is why don't Sony share PS numbers. It's their own numbers and they have the right to disclose that information if they want. I mean, as bad as nintendo was getting it they still shared their monthly numbers. So what gives?

 

Intrinsic said:
EricHiggin said:

What you showed me was my post, using general terminology. 1) Where I specifically said NPD I'm not sure, because I dont remember pointing to that exactly.

You however seem to think everytime I say anything like "sales" that it means NPD numbers. Why you think this I don't know, but I don't see 2) how its not obvious that's not what I was talking about. If you haven't come to that conclusion, then you just don't get it, or your trolling, either way, it doesn't change what I meant.

this will be my last reply to you. 

 

  1. this is an NPD thread. And you have cited me on multiple occasions where I said it would be good to see NPD numbers. Sowhat are you saying?
  2. that's BS. You talked about a lack of numbers. And specifically said Sony had been boasting with numbers for years and now are not. If you are talking about Global sales and not NPD then surely you are aware that two or three days ago Sony just announced GLOBAL numbers of 50M? How can you possibly say you aren't talking about NPD but global numbers and how Sony is not releasing them anymore when they clearly are and have? And when in my first reply to you I Pointed that very thing out? 
And yet I am the one trolling? Your argument is all over the place. you are constantly changing what you are saying. Now you are saying that in an NPD thread, and in reply to people talking about the lack of NPD numbers, you called Sony out for changing how they do things and not show numbers but you were referring to global numbers. which doesn't make sense cause Sony just released global numners days before the NPD......... smh. 

 

Based on the posts, to sum it up quick from my point of view,

All I see is you asking why PS won't share their NPD, and I replied with two reasons why that might be. You said you thought I was wrong because PS hasn't shown their PS4 NPD the entire gen. I just simply implied that doesn't mean what I said couldn't be right. Then you started going on about how apparently I was basically continually saying PS had shown their NPD, which I never did. I just gave a reason why they might not have. Thats it. The part about changing tone was about their comments mostly. If you don't want to believe that, thats fine, but thats what I meant. Tone as in talking, words. I acknowledged PS won, since I'm not against PS or any brand. I'm not sure why having an open mind is such a problem but thats where I stand. If this isn't good enough for you, for whatever reason, then we will just have to agree to disagree I guess.



jason1637 on 10 December 2016
Ali_16x said:
jason1637 said:

Ok lets see how it compares to the real numbers.

I don't think this is the first time you've posted content/things related to Crapgamer. How in gods name can you follow him and them.

I didnt know he was related to crapgamer nor did i knoe who hes was until the last fee months.