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Forums - Sales Discussion - Final Fantasy 15 PS4 sales stomp all over the Xbox One version

Zkuq on 06 December 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Zkuq said:

It could look a bit different for sure, but I wouldn't expect anything that drastic. The difference in behaviours between PS4 and Xbox owners probably isn't that big anyway (and I think we don't even know who buys the most digital games), and even the userbases alone practically guarantee a 'victory' for PS4 here. Going by userbases alone, the PS4 version should get about 66% (or roughly 2/3) of the sales anyway.

Is preloading a new thing on consoles? It's been happening for what must be like a decade on PC, so this sounds quite... humorous at this point.

By user base, its  55% or something for the PS4 version. The problem is the difference in tastes rather than userbase advantage. The gap will be bigger in other countries where the Xbox One isn't doing well.

The game has a Wii U version too now?



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Ali_16x on 06 December 2016

It's probably 90% worldwide lol. I honestly would not be surprised if FFXVI is going to be PS4/PC only.



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DonFerrari on 06 December 2016
Zkuq said:
Intrinsic said:

Meh, XB1 gamers buy more of their games digitally and sony games only buy physical games. If we had digital numbers it would be a totally different story.

It could look a bit different for sure, but I wouldn't expect anything that drastic. The difference in behaviours between PS4 and Xbox owners probably isn't that big anyway (and I think we don't even know who buys the most digital games), and even the userbases alone practically guarantee a 'victory' for PS4 here. Going by userbases alone, the PS4 version should get about 66% (or roughly 2/3) of the sales anyway.

On UK it's 55-45 userbase not 66-33... WW where it's closer to 60-40-> 65-35 It will have sales 9:1 or even more skewed.

Soundwave said:

20% is still a pretty fat chunk of sales. No company would want to just lose 20% of their sales.

I do think it'll be re-release on Scorpio along with PC. Possibly Switch even as well. SE will milk the hell outta it because the development cost was likely sky high.

It would depend if they could get some extra money for being exclusive, be either less development cost, small payment from Sony (or smaller royalty). But yep there would need to be some rationale to skip 10% sales increase.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Snoopy on 06 December 2016

Lol, so much salt. With digital sales it over 1 million worldwide for Xbox one. That is more than justifiable for the Xbox one version. If we are thinking lifetime sales it will hit 2-3 million on Xbox one easily.

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Rob5VGC on 06 December 2016
teigaga said:

To be expected and I actually kind of expected worse.

Although SE should probably stop releasing so many FF games as Playstation exclusive if they really want to expand the franchise on the Xbox Platform. If not I kinda want to them to go playstation exclusive (maybe timed) and make the absolute most of the playstation hardware.

Nice use of sarcasm.

To the OP: Only the delusional and ignorant didn't see that coming.



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DonFerrari on 06 December 2016
Snoopy said:

Lol, so much salt. With digital sales it over 1 million worldwide for Xbox one. That is more than justifiable for the Xbox one version. If we are thinking lifetime sales it will hit 2-3 million on Xbox one easily.

Salt from who?

Yep, 1M digital sales for X1 in UK, it actually outsold PS4 version 9:1 when digital is accounted for.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Snoopy on 06 December 2016
DonFerrari said:
Snoopy said:

Lol, so much salt. With digital sales it over 1 million worldwide for Xbox one. That is more than justifiable for the Xbox one version. If we are thinking lifetime sales it will hit 2-3 million on Xbox one easily.

Salt from who?

Yep, 1M digital sales for X1 in UK, it actually outsold PS4 version 9:1 when digital is accounted for.

A lot of users are upset because all the main featured ff games will be on Xbox pretty much. Just like when they were upset with msg being on Xbox. Selling around 1 million/ over a million FW is a huge deal for square. 



Aura7541 on 06 December 2016
Soundwave said:

20% is still a pretty fat chunk of sales. No company would want to just lose 20% of their sales.

I do think it'll be re-release on Scorpio along with PC. Possibly Switch even as well. SE will milk the hell outta it because the development cost was likely sky high.

That percentage applies to the UK only and the split is going in line with Type-0's ratios, though this time Microsoft marketed FFXV when it didn't for Type-0. I believe Type-0's worldwide ratio was 90% PS4/10% XBO.

Opportunity costs will also go into play. Would Square want to put in manpower, money, and time on porting to a console whose JRPG fanbase is tiny or allocate those things towards their future big titles for platforms that have much larger JRPG fanbases (e.g. PS4, PC)?



LivingMetal on 06 December 2016
Snoopy said:
DonFerrari said:

Salt from who?

Yep, 1M digital sales for X1 in UK, it actually outsold PS4 version 9:1 when digital is accounted for.

A lot of users are upset because all the main featured ff games will be on Xbox pretty much. Just like when they were upset with msg being on Xbox. Selling around 1 million/ over a million FW is a huge deal for square. 

No one brought salt into this except you.  Maybe you're the one salty because high sales of FF on the PlayStation only propels the PlayStation as a more viable gaming platform than the Xbox.



Snoopy on 06 December 2016
Aura7541 said:
Soundwave said:

20% is still a pretty fat chunk of sales. No company would want to just lose 20% of their sales.

I do think it'll be re-release on Scorpio along with PC. Possibly Switch even as well. SE will milk the hell outta it because the development cost was likely sky high.

That percentage applies to the UK only and the split is going in line with Type-0's ratios, though this time Microsoft marketed FFXV when it didn't for Type-0. I believe Type-0's worldwide ratio was 90% PS4/10% XBO.

Opportunity costs will also go into play. Would Square want to put in manpower, money, and time on porting to a console whose JRPG fanbase is tiny or allocate those things towards their future big titles for platforms that have much larger JRPG fanbases (e.g. PS4, PC)?

Porting is very easy now days because Xbox one and PS4 have same architecture and hardly cost any money to do so. The ff engine does all the leg work so to speak. People are acting like they have to redo the graphics/sounds/code.