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RolStoppable said:
bunchanumbers said:

Because one of them is shooting it and the other one is talking about them.

 

Oh and seriously Trump said he could go out on 5th avenue and shoot someone and people wouldn't care. Doesn't sound to me like he is all that discerning about the target.

That statement of Trump reads more like "smear campaigns won't work against me", at least that makes more sense than taking it literally. And that was the biggest failure of the Clinton campaign which insisted on using conventional tactics on an unconventional candidate who had repeatedly come out stronger after others tried to smear him. A smart person would have adjusted the campaign against Trump, but that's the story of this election: Stupid people doing very stupid things because they've convinced themselves hard that they are so much smarter than people who support Trump.

The conventional politician resorts to denial and lies when faced with a smear campaign, but Trump flipped the entire premise and embraced the bad guy image (hence the quote about going out on the streets and shooting someone), so what usually weakens a politician made him stronger.

FunFan said:

Is that why your avy is laughing hysterically?

Hm... maybe.

Hillary messed up on two fronts.  One, they didn't have as much oppostional research done as I thought they would.  There are plenty of Trump clips and sound bites out there that would have swayed the election in her favor, yet no one really put them out, save the Billy Bush clip.  And even when that came out, she didn't hit him hardly at all about it.  I guess she just thought the clip would talk for itself. 

And second, and much more importantly, her own corruption bit her in the ass.  It's the reason a nobody like Bernie Sanders gave her such a run in the primaries, when, on name alone, she should have wrapped it up quickly.  And only the chance that there were scandalous emails in the Weiner case was just the last straw for many people.  Sure, it turned out to be nothing, but the fact that people could see the real possibility that it was true was enough. 

In short, she was a horrible candidate.  The fact the Reps put forth their worst is the only reason there was even a battle.  Had it been Rubio or Cruz, they would have trounced her, not just finish so close.  And if the Dems had actually run Biden, I have no doubt he would have wiped the floor with Trump.



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thismeintiel said:
RolStoppable said:

That statement of Trump reads more like "smear campaigns won't work against me", at least that makes more sense than taking it literally. And that was the biggest failure of the Clinton campaign which insisted on using conventional tactics on an unconventional candidate who had repeatedly come out stronger after others tried to smear him. A smart person would have adjusted the campaign against Trump, but that's the story of this election: Stupid people doing very stupid things because they've convinced themselves hard that they are so much smarter than people who support Trump.

The conventional politician resorts to denial and lies when faced with a smear campaign, but Trump flipped the entire premise and embraced the bad guy image (hence the quote about going out on the streets and shooting someone), so what usually weakens a politician made him stronger.

Hm... maybe.

Hillary messed up on two fronts.  One, they didn't have as much oppostional research done as I thought they would.  There are plenty of Trump clips and sound bites out there that would have swayed the election in her favor, yet no one really put them out, save the Billy Bush clip.  And even when that came out, she didn't hit him hardly at all about it.  I guess she just thought the clip would talk for itself. 

And second, and much more importantly, her own corruption bit her in the ass.  It's the reason a nobody like Bernie Sanders gave her such a run in the primaries, when, on name alone, she should have wrapped it up quickly.  And only the chance that there were scandalous emails in the Weiner case was just the last straw for many people.  Sure, it turned out to be nothing, but the fact that people could see the real possibility that it was true was enough. 

In short, she was a horrible candidate.  The fact the Reps put forth their worst is the only reason there was even a battle.  Had it been Rubio or Cruz, they would have trounced her, not just finish so close.  And if the Dems had actually run Biden, I have no doubt he would have wiped the floor with Trump.

She made bad assumptions. One was that she didn't need to rally her base. She started going after red states instead of making sure she kept michigan, wisconsin and minnesota. She should have been out every day rallying instead of fund raising. She didn't think about the needs of the people instead of pointing at the opposition saying 'those guys are bad!' She didn't emphasize how her plans would affect regular people. She tried to keep the Obama coalition but she isn't Obama. And she didn't emphasize economy. That should have been first and foremost on her plan.



Teeqoz said:
irstupid said:
Synopsis of this "cabinet picking"

Trump picks someone not in the swamp and media cries out about the person having no experience.
Trump picks someone with experience and the media cries out about the person being in the swamp.

Here's me over here trying to ignore the media.

Who has Trump picked that wasn't "in the swamp" (to use your (or his I guess) words).

Like I said, I haven't been paying attention too close. I was so excited when election was over for the sole sake that I would not have ot hear about politics 24/7, yet that was wrong.

But I did see he picked some young lady to be like foreign affairs or something and then people going off about how she has no experience and too young or some such.

But not even in this regard. Look at when Trump was asked if he would accept the results of the election and he said "we'll see" or something like that. The media and people went off on him about how horrible that is. Yet what has been happening since the election. Let's do recounts. Let's abolish electorate college. Let's protest. Ect. Hypocrisy.

Or how about when the first republican debate happened and the first question was something like "do you all swear to accept and support the eventually nominee." Trump was the only one not to raise his hand or say yes. He got hugely boo'd and every politician slamed him for it. Yet what happens when Trump gets teh nominee. Practially half the republicans denounce him and say they will not support him. Hypocrisy.

Hipocrisy and politics go hand and hand. 



LadyJasmine said:
I think its impossible to drain the swap and run a functional government.

Not impossible. You would just have to basically start completely fresh and clean out the entire government though. I would be surprised if there was one politician that was not in it for themselves, in someones pocket or as the saying goes "in the swamp" somehow or another. The only "good" politicians would be at like low levels "city" or something. As the saying goes "nice guys finish last" that is especially true in politics. Those "good" politicians could never make their way up the ladder to be in real power. 



zorg1000 said:
Did anyone else notice the article is from May?

I didn't, and this should probably be mentioned in some more prominent place as well, to reduce confusion. For attention:

THIS ARTICLE IS FROM MAY, WAY BEFORE TRUMP WAS ELECTED.



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Pretty sure it's an incorrect date stamp. Either that or that website can read the future or has a time machine. There are multiple articles on this from 50 other sources if you want.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38141686

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-chooses-steven-mnuchin-as-treasury-secretary/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7i&linkId=31719926

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/29/trump-to-nominate-steven-mnuchin-for-treasury-secretary-sources-say.html

If that website knew about this in May that would make the whole thing even more shady, lol. 



Soundwave said:

Pretty sure it's an incorrect date stamp. Either that or that website can read the future or has a time machine. There are multiple articles on this from 50 other sources if you want.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38141686

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-chooses-steven-mnuchin-as-treasury-secretary/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7i&linkId=31719926

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/29/trump-to-nominate-steven-mnuchin-for-treasury-secretary-sources-say.html

If that website knew about this in May that would make the whole thing even more shady, lol. 

Did you even read the article you posted?

"Trump announced that heading up his own personal fundraising operation as national finance chairman will be Steven Mnuchin, a long-time business associate, chairman and CEO of the hedge fund Dune Capital."

Says nothing about him being appointed Treasury Secretary.



FunFan said:
hershel_layton said:
lol at the idiots who thought Trump would be the second coming of Christ.

I doubt Trump's win was because of him being seen as Christ, thats absurd, but more about not wanting to spark a war with Russia. But thats just me, a believer of the lesser evil theory.

Spend some time on Trump pages and you will see multitudes praying for the lord's vessel.



thismeintiel said:
Soundwave said:

Pretty sure it's an incorrect date stamp. Either that or that website can read the future or has a time machine. There are multiple articles on this from 50 other sources if you want.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38141686

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-chooses-steven-mnuchin-as-treasury-secretary/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7i&linkId=31719926

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/29/trump-to-nominate-steven-mnuchin-for-treasury-secretary-sources-say.html

If that website knew about this in May that would make the whole thing even more shady, lol. 

Did you even read the article you posted?

"Trump announced that heading up his own personal fundraising operation as national finance chairman will be Steven Mnuchin, a long-time business associate, chairman and CEO of the hedge fund Dune Capital."

Says nothing about him being appointed Treasury Secretary.

The successive 3 articles do lol.

It's trollception!



Wrong link in the OP, updated it.