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hunter_alien on 25 October 2016
Cobretti2 said:
hunter_alien said:
No, I am sorry, but this is unacceptable IMO. I get that they add gameplay footage post production, but thus far the only AAA game that was confirmed for the Switch is Zelda, and even that is a cross generation game. This was a botched attempt. They should have shown at least 3 other major titles from themselves, to actually get excited about the upcoming software lineup (games that will actually make it to the system).

I am pretty certain that the software support will be there (that's why I will put down my money on it) but game wise the reveal was abysmal. There is no other way to put it. Nintendo was always with the mantra that games sell a system, where are the games 5 months from release?

you do realise the preview isn't aimed at you but the general public?

they wanted to get a message across about wtf it actually does, because unlke the wii u no one was informed. 

by adding "new game footage" it would take away from what the switch is about. they wanted people to talk about the switch and not the games. that way come time of release unless you been livng under a rock you know what it is and that it is a new console and not an addon for the wii.  

No, I still dont buy it. Games sell consoles. The NS is not a far out concept, that people cannot get their heads around it. Time and time again we were proven that gameplay footage helps sell games and consoles. Remember the old&od PS3 commercials? But lets say that you are right, what possible reason could they have to not show some expected games 5 months prior release? How in the hell would that take away from the buzz?

This is not a make or break sittuation, but it would have helped IMO.



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bigtakilla on 25 October 2016
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
bigtakilla said:

What stops 2k and Bethesda? They should already have tweeted whether these were coming out. It makes no since that they haven't except for the fact they don't want the backlash.

The backlash of Nintendo itself perhaps...

It's likely that almost no 3rd party support can speak about software until Nintendo has done so in 2017. Hence the similar statements about software from both company when they responded to the introduction of the NS.

Look at nvidea who said nothing at all untill now. Nintendo has likely NDA's on everything. A software NDA is very likely.

Odd though that SE could announce it. Maybe they got some deal on that announcement.

That makes no sense. These games are coming out soon, were shown in the teaser, and Nintendo doesn't want it known the Switch is a viable option to get these games? That's just bad business.

 

So the unnecessary confusion starts.



Areaz32 on 25 October 2016

Might have something to do with this?



bigtakilla on 25 October 2016
Areaz32 said:

Might have something to do with this?

What, a girl playing videogames. That's sexist.



potato_hamster on 25 October 2016
bigtakilla said:
potato_hamster said:


See that's the thing that is stirring the pot a little. In some cases, the "gameplay video" actually isn't running very well. This is leading to some confusion from all sides.

Is Skyrim or NBA 2K likely coming to the Switch? I really hope for Nintendo's sake that they are, because I genuinely do not feel that Nintendo is going to keep making hardware if the Switch tanks, and like the X1 has shown, the release of a console can be absolutely critical. The last thing Nintendo needs is the backlash from showing widely known and beloved games in their announcement trailer that currently have no plans of being developed for the NS. That would be a total disaster.

It's just super annoying as someone who enjoyed the Wii, and really wants to see Nintendo reverse its gradual loss of influence in the industry, there are so many little things that would take preview trailer and make it 1000 times better. For example, release a spec sheet of the console after the trailer drops. Release high resolution images for the press to use. Answer some basic questions about the console is a more clear and cocise way, because any ambiguity this close to the release of the console introduces doubt in the minds of prospective buyers.

Like in this case, all Nintendo had to say was "While all game footage in the trailer represents titles that are in development for the Nintendo Switch, you shouldn't assume what you saw on the video represents actual Switch game footage". Is that so hard? That doesn't hurt anything, except eliminate a variable. Any policy that prevents them from saying such a thing is a bad policy.

All of those who are speculating about how the graphics processor of the NS might not be finalized, and that Nvidia is cooking up some super powerful highly custom chip. We are FIVE MONTHS from the release of the console, that decision has to have been made 8-10 months before release at the earliest. If that is the case, if they are still trying to work out the yields for this super custom chip, it makes you wonder how prepared Nintendo actually is for the release of this console. They could quash all of this nonsense with one simple spec sheet, and then they can just focus on hyping gamers on their new console rather than sorting through the confusion.

Nintendo needs to do better here, they will sell more consoles and create more hype if they do. That is, unless they're being vague because there's gremlins lurking unneath the surface of the NS, that they want to keep quiet until they can no longer hold back. I don't think any video game fan really wants that to be the case though. A humbly successful Nintendo is good for the video game industry as a whole, there's no denying that.

What stops 2k and Bethesda? They should already have tweeted whether these were coming out. It makes no since that they haven't except for the fact they don't want the backlash.

Gag order from Nintendo. Nintendo can force them to not say anything until Nintendo says so. Basing on the fact that many developers have near identical resposnes, I suspect these are canned reponses provided by Nintendo.

Essentially, Nintendo is forcing developers to be the Marshawn Lynch of video game interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQnKTyXqWx0



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Areaz32 on 25 October 2016
bigtakilla said:
Areaz32 said:

Might have something to do with this?

What, a girl playing videogames. That's sexist.

Notice the screen throughout that gif. It clips over her arm.



bigtakilla on 25 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
bigtakilla said:

What stops 2k and Bethesda? They should already have tweeted whether these were coming out. It makes no since that they haven't except for the fact they don't want the backlash.

Gag order from Nintendo. Nintendo can force them to not say anything until Nintendo says so. Basing on the fact that many developers have near identical resposnes, I suspect these are canned reponses provided by Nintendo.

Essentially, Nintendo is forcing developers to be the Marshawn Lynch of video game interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQnKTyXqWx0

Yet again, what sense does it make to have the official page have every other system available for preorder, but not even mention their company. That's not smart business, in fact its the opposite.



potato_hamster on 25 October 2016
bigtakilla said:
potato_hamster said:

Gag order from Nintendo. Nintendo can force them to not say anything until Nintendo says so. Basing on the fact that many developers have near identical resposnes, I suspect these are canned reponses provided by Nintendo.

Essentially, Nintendo is forcing developers to be the Marshawn Lynch of video game interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQnKTyXqWx0

Yet again, what sense does it make to have the official page have every other system available for preorder, but not even mention their company. That's not smart business, in fact its the opposite.

I completely agree, hence my frustration. I mean honestly, what's the point of listing any of the official partners if they're not allowed to discuss the degree of which they're actually partnering with Nintendo, and what their partnership actually means for gamers?

For all we know From Software has no intentions of ever putting a game on the NS, but rather is offering their technical expertise in soft area of game development they're experts in. On the other hand, I'm sure there's gamers out there that expect From's next be title to appear on the NS because their name is on that list.



bigtakilla on 25 October 2016
potato_hamster said:
bigtakilla said:

Yet again, what sense does it make to have the official page have every other system available for preorder, but not even mention their company. That's not smart business, in fact its the opposite.

I completely agree, hence my frustration. I mean honestly, what's the point of listing any of the official partners if they're not allowed to discuss the degree of which they're actually partnering with Nintendo, and what their partnership actually means for gamers?

For all we know From Software has no intentions of ever putting a game on the NS, but rather is offering their technical expertise in soft area of game development they're experts in. On the other hand, I'm sure there's gamers out there that expect From's next be title to appear on the NS because their name is on that list.

Exactly, it means everything to day 1 buyers (when games tend to sell the most respectively). No one is gonna say "I'll wait for the Switch version" if a Switch version isn't even listed. Again, the lack of transparency with Nintendo.



potato_hamster on 25 October 2016
bigtakilla said:
potato_hamster said:

I completely agree, hence my frustration. I mean honestly, what's the point of listing any of the official partners if they're not allowed to discuss the degree of which they're actually partnering with Nintendo, and what their partnership actually means for gamers?

For all we know From Software has no intentions of ever putting a game on the NS, but rather is offering their technical expertise in soft area of game development they're experts in. On the other hand, I'm sure there's gamers out there that expect From's next be title to appear on the NS because their name is on that list.

Exactly, it means everything to day 1 buyers (when games tend to sell the most respectively). No one is gonna say "I'll wait for the Switch version" if a Switch version isn't even listed. Again, the lack of transparency with Nintendo.

I just do not understand the potential harm of announcing recognizable third party games that were featured in the announcement trailer. What harm can that possibly do? It's not like it's a new IP or anything like that. All it does is raise requestions with people that are interested in your system and dampers their excitement.