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CopyMaster1 said:
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You forgot that the Switch has an active cooling solution, not passive cooling like smartphones/tablets.



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fleischr said:

I wouldn't think Bethesda would commit the sin of giving the idea that Switch is more powerful than it really is. EA or Ubisoft would. But I wouldn't expect that from Bethesda.

Apparently Nintendo could do that:

Nintendo said:

At a later date, before the March launch, we'll be talking about things like exact launch date, and of course, the games. You shouldn't assume what you saw on the video represents actual game footage and further specifics on first-party games will be provided later.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-24-behind-the-scenes-of-nintendos-switch-reveal-video

We "shouldn't assume" that the game footage they showed in the video is actually game footage :D



Faelco said:
fleischr said:

I wouldn't think Bethesda would commit the sin of giving the idea that Switch is more powerful than it really is. EA or Ubisoft would. But I wouldn't expect that from Bethesda.

Apparently Nintendo could do that:

Nintendo said:

At a later date, before the March launch, we'll be talking about things like exact launch date, and of course, the games. You shouldn't assume what you saw on the video represents actual game footage and further specifics on first-party games will be provided later.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-24-behind-the-scenes-of-nintendos-switch-reveal-video

We "shouldn't assume" that the game footage they showed in the video is actually game footage :D

That could be said because some of what's shown could be prototypes built upon WiiU games rather than actual titles in develoment for Switch.

So I could see Nintendo doing that - but no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that. Please.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Stefan51278 said:
etking said:

Why did Myamoto appear on the latest Apple marketing show? The ARM/Tegra based NX devkit hardware is at least compatible to Android / IOS. Maybe the OS is licensed by Apple, maybe it is not, but it will be very easy to port games to and from other ARM-based platforms for sure.

First: Android not on NX: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/06/02/will-nintendos-nx-adopt-android-company-says-no/

Second: If you would have any clue about the last 20 years of Apple's company-history you would know they don't license their operating systems. period.

Third: 3DS used ARM. In your logic Nintendo would put Android on the 3DS. Didn't happen because it doesn't make sense.

 

We'll have to see on point 1, Nintendo has denied things by Nikkei before (we're not making a 3DS XL ... uh, yes you are, we're not making smartphone games, uh yes you are). IMO Nikkei is right to some degree because their track record is rock solid even when Nintendo denies their reporting. 



fleischr said:
Faelco said:

Apparently Nintendo could do that:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-24-behind-the-scenes-of-nintendos-switch-reveal-video

We "shouldn't assume" that the game footage they showed in the video is actually game footage :D

That could be said because some of what's shown could be prototypes built upon WiiU games rather than actual titles in develoment for Switch.

So I could see Nintendo doing that - but no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that. Please.

Your whole argument "Anyone who saw version in the Switch trailer can tell it's the enhanced version that's also on XBO/PS4" falls apart and you still choose to ignore that, grasping to straws like "Bethesda wouldn't do that", "no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that", "EA or Ubisoft would doo that, but not the holy Bethesda", blablabla.

Maybe you yourself are one of "these people" you laughed about:

End of story.



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Conina said:
fleischr said:

That could be said because some of what's shown could be prototypes built upon WiiU games rather than actual titles in develoment for Switch.

So I could see Nintendo doing that - but no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that. Please.

Your whole argument "Anyone who saw version in the Switch trailer can tell it's the enhanced version that's also on XBO/PS4" falls apart and you still choose to ignore that, grasping to straws like "Bethesda wouldn't do that", "no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that", "EA or Ubisoft would doo that, but not the holy Bethesda", blablabla.

Maybe you yourself are one of "these people" you laughed about:

End of story.

Don't waste my time with these "I'm rubber. You're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you" replies.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

fleischr said:
Conina said:

Your whole argument "Anyone who saw version in the Switch trailer can tell it's the enhanced version that's also on XBO/PS4" falls apart and you still choose to ignore that, grasping to straws like "Bethesda wouldn't do that", "no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that", "EA or Ubisoft would doo that, but not the holy Bethesda", blablabla.

Maybe you yourself are one of "these people" you laughed about:

End of story.

Don't waste my time with these "I'm rubber. You're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you" replies.

Another case of complaining on others about your own actions



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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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Conina said:
fleischr said:

That could be said because some of what's shown could be prototypes built upon WiiU games rather than actual titles in develoment for Switch.

So I could see Nintendo doing that - but no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that. Please.

Your whole argument "Anyone who saw version in the Switch trailer can tell it's the enhanced version that's also on XBO/PS4" falls apart and you still choose to ignore that, grasping to straws like "Bethesda wouldn't do that", "no way they'd strong-arm Bethesda to do that", "EA or Ubisoft would doo that, but not the holy Bethesda", blablabla.

Maybe you yourself are one of "these people" you laughed about:

End of story.

I really would rather not get involved in this argument since a lot of you are acting childish on some level, but he has a point.  Nintendo?  Strong arming Bethesda Softworks?  Please.  They couldn't get BethSoft to shake their hand on stage in 2011 when coming off the monster success of the Wii.  There's no way in hell they bullied BethSoft into showing a false representation of their game on the Switch, especially when you take into account that Bethesda is one of the few companies that has consistently made the point of showing representative gameplay footage of their games.  And definitely not with Nintendo coming off the bomb of the Wii U.  What incentive, pray tell, would Bethesda have to do this?  Money?  They're filthy rich and every BGS game sells over 10 million without breaking a sweat, no ammount Nintendo could offer them would be worth the PR black eye and the potential legal exposure.  A big new audience?  Hardly a bet worth taking after the Wii U.  Unless Bethesda is lying for the lulz, there's no reason to disregard it, only to not take anything as a stone cold guarantee.

Like it or not, the Skyrim footage on the Switch has significance and the version being the enhanced version - which it was - is also not by mistake.  We'll have to wait and see if it is the same version as the Xbone, but it's not vanilla.  

Oh, and Nintendo is also including their own footage in that "don't take these things as announcements" statements and let's face it, we all know that the Nintendo games in that footage are real, they ain't got time to dither about making fake games :P



Nuvendil said:

I really would rather not get involved in this argument since a lot of you are acting childish on some level, but he has a point.  Nintendo?  Strong arming Bethesda Softworks?  Please.  They couldn't get BethSoft to shake their hand on stage in 2011 when coming off the monster success of the Wii.  There's no way in hell they bullied BethSoft into showing a false representation of their game on the Switch,...

They wouldn't have to "strong-arm" or "bully" BethSoft to do anything. If they have an agreement that Nintendo is allowed to show a few seconds of Skyrim in that clip... why should BethSoft be against showing a scene which looks good?

It is a Win-Win-situation for both companies: Nintendo can show off the Switch and BethSoft can show off Skyrim. And BOTH companies have a backdoor / an excuse for later complaints that the Switch version doesn't look as good as in the trailer:

...especially when you take into account that Bethesda is one of the few companies that has consistently made the point of showing representative gameplay footage of their games.  

Bethesda ain't much better than the other big developers / publishers. Both Bethesda + id software have a lot of broken promises in their company histories (downgrades, performance problems, bugged software...).


Like it or not, the Skyrim footage on the Switch has significance and the version being the enhanced version - which it was - is also not by mistake.  We'll have to wait and see if it is the same version as the Xbone, but it's not vanilla.  

Like it or not, the current Switch teaser proves nothing about the graphical power of that console, neither in handheld mode nor in docking station mode. The game footage was implemented later into the video and they have their "not final, subject to change" backdoor. We'll have to wait and see if the Switch gets a Skyrim that can keep up with the XBO and/or PS4 version.

Oh, and Nintendo is also including their own footage in that "don't take these things as announcements" statements and let's face it, we all know that the Nintendo games in that footage are real, they ain't got time to dither about making fake games :P

I don't doubt that all the shown Nintendo games will be available on the Switch eventually. But the "they ain't got time for fake games" argument is pretty weak... f.e.: they have taken the time for the Zelda tech demo in 2011 and the "Super Mario 128" tech demo in 2000 and many other concepts or tech demos. 

Answers in bold.



Guys....  it HAS TO BE as powerful as the Xbox One.  The Xbox Oneis 3 YEARS OLD.  Were talking nvidia Pascal architecture here.  If the Switch is not up to par with the current Xbox 1 and PS4, ninendo is doing all of us, an themselves a terrible disservice and the Switch will fail.

 

We all better be pleasantly surprised.  i want the Switch to be great.