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Kai_Mao on 16 October 2016

I have no problem with criticism as long as it backs it up and doesn't aim to take shots at someone or something. However, this particular statement rubs me the wrong way. I get that Pachter doesn't like Nintendo's strategy in terms with mobile. Nevertheless, he could've said something that didn't sound like he's taking a shot at Iwata. Iwata's accomplishments both as a designer and as a president of both HAL and Nintendo cannot be swept under the rug or undermined. Despite his failure with the Wii U (and to some extent the initial launch of the 3DS), Iwata was able to bring in new audiences into gaming, which is never a bad thing. His current strategy that is being under Kimishima's watch so the ultimate results are yet to be determined.



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Hynad on 16 October 2016

That was a petty, gratuitous and heartless jab at Iwata.

Pachter cementing himself as a piece of shit.



VGPolyglot on 16 October 2016
Peh said:
Slimebeast said:

So it's okay to lash out on a tirade of hate against a living man because he happened to criticize the strategy of a dead business leader.

Great logic. Fantastic sense of justice.

A dead person can't defend himself. I guess, yes. It's the best I could do.

A dead person doesn't have feelings, so he doesn't really have to defend himself.



Nautilus on 16 October 2016
VGPolyglot said:
Peh said:

A dead person can't defend himself. I guess, yes. It's the best I could do.

A dead person doesn't have feelings, so he doesn't really have to defend himself.

And this kind of thinking wont get you nowhere.Its a matter of respect, especially for what many consider a great man like Iwata.Its ok to critisize the mans work and the person to an extent, but just because he is dead dosent give you the right to be a dick about him.



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FunFan on 16 October 2016

Not so great in which aspect? He didn't specify. As a programmer? Developer? Creative mind? No one can be great at everything, and everyone makes mistakes. Iwata unluckily died during the lowest point of his career, if you ignore the 3ds and his involvement in Pokemon Go.



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Slimebeast on 16 October 2016
JRPGfan said:
Slimebeast said:

So it's okay to lash out on a tirade of hate against a living man because he happened to criticize the strategy of a dead business leader.

Great logic. Fantastic sense of justice.

I watched the entire video and I never felt like he was being mean.

He explains why he didnt think he was a great business leader, and why hes not happy with the approach nintendo is takeing with paywall Super Mario Run.

I dont understand why people here are getting upset.

Same.

Obviously he didn't mean to be disrespectful to Mr. Iwata when he said "late but not so great", he just meant strictly from a business point of view, but if Patcher would have gotten a second chance I think he would choose his words more carefully just to avoid any misunderstandings.

People read too much into his words just to find errors and put blame.



XanderXT on 16 October 2016

Not so great? He could be a bad CEO, and this still wouldn't apply to him.



Slimebeast on 16 October 2016
FunFan said:
Not so great in which aspect? He didn't specify. As a programmer? Developer? Creative mind? No one can be great at everything, and everyone makes mistakes. Iwata unluckily died during the lowest point of his career, if you ignore the 3ds and his involvement in Pokemon Go.

Iwata "not so great" as a business leader. If you look at the context it becomes clear that that's what Pachter meaned.



theRepublic on 16 October 2016

What a shithead. I didn't realize this guy could get any lower. He found a way though.



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Slimebeast on 16 October 2016
Kai_Mao said:
I have no problem with criticism as long as it backs it up and doesn't aim to take shots at someone or something. However, this particular statement rubs me the wrong way. I get that Pachter doesn't like Nintendo's strategy in terms with mobile. Nevertheless, he could've said something that didn't sound like he's taking a shot at Iwata. Iwata's accomplishments both as a designer and as a president of both HAL and Nintendo cannot be swept under the rug or undermined. Despite his failure with the Wii U (and to some extent the initial launch of the 3DS), Iwata was able to bring in new audiences into gaming, which is never a bad thing. His current strategy that is being under Kimishima's watch so the ultimate results are yet to be determined.

That's your opinion, but it's not exactly universal truth. You must respect that somebody might have a different opinion, that Iwata was a poor leader (CEO) of Nintendo.