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While I agree with most of Trump's policies I think he is unintelligent, rude, has an unstable personality and is unfit for the presidency. On the other hand he has shaken up American and world politics in a very positive way and if he became the US president he would make the world more exciting and the future less predictable (which from a conservative's perspective in 2016 is good).

Also, despite his unpredictable and heated temperament in media I don't think he would be dangerous for the world's security, because he would take on a more mature role once he would become responsible for his actions and the political establishment is so strong and would work against and mitigate any crazy policies he would try to implement.

Hillary Clinton won the debate. She comes off as professional and experienced. Meanwhile Trump is rhetorically weak, he's not charismatic and his personality is not pleasant. Further, he is out of touch with people, he doesn't seem to understand that he comes off as rude and unfomfortable, especially when he interrupts and boasts about himself. He's just lacking in intelligence.

The moderatur was not good. He allowed Trump to talk for too long and interrupt Clinton too much. In the campaigns and the democratic and repbulican debates Fox News has been the best, most disciplined moderator.

The good thing about Trump is that he has opened up a new dimension in American politics that hopefully someone in the future can utilize. He has turned the agenda in a more conservative direction. All of a sudden it's normal to be critical against the establishment, against media and political correctness, and Trump'ss criticism against immigration and islamism has been confident, has felt natural and inspiring. These things are good. The bad thing is that these policies are associated with the rude and selfish persona of Donald Trump.

I hope we get a close election where Hillary wins with a tiny margin. I hope that she is regarded as a president with a weak mandate and that she has to work against a highly resistant congress and a sceptical American populace who will remain very critical and suspicuous of her during her entire presidency. Therefore she would be unable to implement anything drastic.

And I hope that Trump's surprising success has increased general awareness and inspired the Republican party and future aspiring politicians to bring up the issues of political correctness, immigration and battle for freedom of speech as important policies on the political agenda for the future.



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CosmicSex said:
Dunban67 said:
considering Trump was having to debate Hillary and the moderator he did pretty well- but more importantly Hillary did nothing to gain votes- she seemed to approach the debate as if she was 20 pts a ahead in the polls but she is either tied or behind and that did not appear to change post debate

The moderator was fustrated because Trump didn't answer any damn questions.  She answered questions and he constantly interupted her.  Then when it was his trun he didn't answer questions.  Standards.  We have to have a standard for him that he needs to meet.   Like "Okay you want to be president so what is your plan.... no I asked you what your plan was.... Please answer the damn question"

they should both answer questions from an unbiased moderator-   I agree with your frustration -  neither candidate said much of substance- but to be honest, lowest common denominator politics won t  change until the electorate:  really educates itself on how the political system works and demands actual change in areas like campaign reform and term limits (for house and senate),  quits reacting based on emotion and quits putting most energy into 1 or 2 issues important to only themself- but not nec the rest the country



Dunban67 said:
CosmicSex said:

The moderator was fustrated because Trump didn't answer any damn questions.  She answered questions and he constantly interupted her.  Then when it was his trun he didn't answer questions.  Standards.  We have to have a standard for him that he needs to meet.   Like "Okay you want to be president so what is your plan.... no I asked you what your plan was.... Please answer the damn question"

they should both answer questions from an unbiased moderator-   I agree with your frustration -  neither candidate said much of substance- but to be honest, lowest common denominator politics won t  change until the electorate:  really educates itself on how the political system works and demands actual change in areas like campaign reform and term limits (for house and senate),  quits reacting based on emotion and quits putting most energy into 1 or 2 issues important to only themself- but not nec the rest the country

The moderator Lester Holt is a registered republican though.



Dunban67 said:
CosmicSex said:

The moderator was fustrated because Trump didn't answer any damn questions.  She answered questions and he constantly interupted her.  Then when it was his trun he didn't answer questions.  Standards.  We have to have a standard for him that he needs to meet.   Like "Okay you want to be president so what is your plan.... no I asked you what your plan was.... Please answer the damn question"

they should both answer questions from an unbiased moderator-   I agree with your frustration -  neither candidate said much of substance- but to be honest, lowest common denominator politics won t  change until the electorate:  really educates itself on how the political system works and demands actual change in areas like campaign reform and term limits (for house and senate),  quits reacting based on emotion and quits putting most energy into 1 or 2 issues important to only themself- but not nec the rest the country

Why do you feel that the moderator was biased?  I thought he was too nice on both of them.  Trump didn't need to deny the Iraq war statement that he did in fact make.  That was a softball question because he was a private citizen when he made the statement: end of story.  But he keep lying because he hadn't prepared for the question.  Hillary got the hardest question of the night about her emails but she didn't get defensive, accepted responsibility for her mistake, and was able to wrap it up really quickly.  She was prepared.   



WagnerPaiva said:

Presidential Debate 26th September:  LIVE!

Trump VS Hillary, the link is down bellow:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubp0CEbqW-U

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What better place to talk about it than here in Vgchartz. home of the coolest gamers in the Earth, our very own VGbuddies.

So, if you´re watching, give us your impressions.

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Edit: It is over. It was pretty fun, both of them did good. I am surprised about Hillary stamina, she did well controlling her illness, some shakes here and there but overall she seems under control.

Trump was very good also, some very decent answers.

Very fun overall, I pray to God that the best for America wins.

Hillary SMASHED Trum what a beating!!

(from a independant btw)



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CosmicSex said:
Dunban67 said:

they should both answer questions from an unbiased moderator-   I agree with your frustration -  neither candidate said much of substance- but to be honest, lowest common denominator politics won t  change until the electorate:  really educates itself on how the political system works and demands actual change in areas like campaign reform and term limits (for house and senate),  quits reacting based on emotion and quits putting most energy into 1 or 2 issues important to only themself- but not nec the rest the country

Why do you feel that the moderator was biased?  I thought he was too nice on both of them.  Trump didn't need to deny the Iraq war statement that he did in fact make.  That was a softball question because he was a private citizen when he made the statement: end of story.  But he keep lying because he hadn't prepared for the question.  Hillary got the hardest question of the night about her emails but she didn't get defensive, accepted responsibility for her mistake, and was able to wrap it up really quickly.  She was prepared.   

She pretty much diffused the whole thing without incident. She admitted it was on her and that was the end of it. If Trump was asked a question like that he would have blamed everyone but himself, told flat out lies,  or not even answered the question and turned the whole thing into a fiasco. It seems like he has no skills when it comes to diffusing a situation.



CosmicSex said:
Dunban67 said:

they should both answer questions from an unbiased moderator-   I agree with your frustration -  neither candidate said much of substance- but to be honest, lowest common denominator politics won t  change until the electorate:  really educates itself on how the political system works and demands actual change in areas like campaign reform and term limits (for house and senate),  quits reacting based on emotion and quits putting most energy into 1 or 2 issues important to only themself- but not nec the rest the country

Why do you feel that the moderator was biased?  I thought he was too nice on both of them.  Trump didn't need to deny the Iraq war statement that he did in fact make.  That was a softball question because he was a private citizen when he made the statement: end of story.  But he keep lying because he hadn't prepared for the question.  Hillary got the hardest question of the night about her emails but she didn't get defensive, accepted responsibility for her mistake, and was able to wrap it up really quickly.  She was prepared.   

he did not ask Hilary about emails, Bengahzi (sp),  Clinton Foundation-  he did not ask her any follow ups on her "hot spot issues)  -  He asked Trump several follow ups on his-  He had several "Candy Crowley moments"  as they related to Trump- none re Hillary



CosmicSex said:
Sharpryno said:
Online polls are a joke. Idk why news outlets report on them. Reddit and 4chan just screw all of them. Like the one's last night about the debate.
http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-clinton-debate-online-polls-4chan-the-donald/

Trump did way better than I expected him to the first 20-30 minutes. After that it was the Hillary Clinton show featuring Donald Denying Trump. Hillary or the moderator would state a public quote he made and he would constantly intrerrupt with "no i never said that. not true" etc. It was embarrassing. It was counted that he interrupted Clinton and the moderator around 60 times.
Clinton simply looked poised and prepared for anything. Her main goal was to clearly upset Trump and make him look dumb. Which she did well. Trump looked so lost and flustered in the final 25min of the debate. It was hard to watch him fail that hard.

Question:  what is 4chan and why are they at the center of all negative things?

4chan is where the trolls of the internet hide.  Everyone on that site is called "anonymous" and the site has existed for over a decade. 

Dunban67 said:
CosmicSex said:

Why do you feel that the moderator was biased?  I thought he was too nice on both of them.  Trump didn't need to deny the Iraq war statement that he did in fact make.  That was a softball question because he was a private citizen when he made the statement: end of story.  But he keep lying because he hadn't prepared for the question.  Hillary got the hardest question of the night about her emails but she didn't get defensive, accepted responsibility for her mistake, and was able to wrap it up really quickly.  She was prepared.   

he did not ask Hilary about emails, Bengahzi (sp),  Clinton Foundation-  he did not ask her any follow ups on her "hot spot issues)  -  He asked Trump several follow ups on his-  He had several "Candy Crowley moments"  as they related to Trump- none re Hillary

There is nothing left to ask about Benghazi.  Anyone who blames Clinton for it is just ignorant.  Same about her emails.  She apologized, was cleared, now move on.  Trump got his shot in about it at the debate.  Bringing it back up over an over is just insulting to viewers.   I don't even know what they'd ask about Clinton foundation.  Thats the new republican tin foil hat conspiracy argument against Clinton.   
Trump is newer to politics.  The topics against him were not much talked about in his primary debates.  If Trump was any good at debating he'd know how to address them properly.  Instead he kinda flopped.   He actually tried to make himself look good when bashing Obama for months about his birth certificate.  Entertaining stuff.
Trump saying it makes him smart to not pay federal taxes was the dumbest thing he said all night.   Doesn' that imply the people that do pay federal taxes are dumb?  



Dunban67 said:
CosmicSex said:

Why do you feel that the moderator was biased?  I thought he was too nice on both of them.  Trump didn't need to deny the Iraq war statement that he did in fact make.  That was a softball question because he was a private citizen when he made the statement: end of story.  But he keep lying because he hadn't prepared for the question.  Hillary got the hardest question of the night about her emails but she didn't get defensive, accepted responsibility for her mistake, and was able to wrap it up really quickly.  She was prepared.   

he did not ask Hilary about emails, Bengahzi (sp),  Clinton Foundation-  he did not ask her any follow ups on her "hot spot issues)  -  He asked Trump several follow ups on his-  He had several "Candy Crowley moments"  as they related to Trump- none re Hillary

He did ask about emails.  Like in reality.   So I refuse to argue that.  Bengahzi?  No one cares.  Four years ago Obama was asked about that at the debates.  Let it effing die.   I feel that they should have brought up the Clinton Foundation so I agree on that point because even without going to conspiricy theories what are her plans for the orgization once she is president?  Will she keep accepting donations?  She has to step down at  the very least.   There are so many things that the moderator could have gotten Donald on because he has supplied so much ammunition.  You have to understand how easy Donald had it.  All he had to do was answer the questions.  I agree with your point that Hilary's answers might not be true, but at least she had enough respect to answer the damn questions.  This is so basic.  It was so childish.  He needs to be prepared, calm and focused.  Have answers to easy questions and don't get defensive when there is no reason to. 



CosmicSex said:
Dunban67 said:

he did not ask Hilary about emails, Bengahzi (sp),  Clinton Foundation-  he did not ask her any follow ups on her "hot spot issues)  -  He asked Trump several follow ups on his-  He had several "Candy Crowley moments"  as they related to Trump- none re Hillary

He did ask about emails.  Like in reality.   So I refuse to argue that.  Bengahzi?  No one cares.  Four years ago Obama was asked about that at the debates.  Let it effing die.   I feel that they should have brought up the Clinton Foundation so I agree on that point because even without going to conspiricy theories what are her plans for the orgization once she is president?  Will she keep accepting donations?  She has to step down at  the very least.   There are so many things that the moderator could have gotten Donald on because he has supplied so much ammunition.  You have to understand how easy Donald had it.  All he had to do was answer the questions.  I agree with your point that Hilary's answers might not be true, but at least she had enough respect to answer the damn questions.  This is so basic.  It was so childish.  He needs to be prepared, calm and focused.  Have answers to easy questions and don't get defensive when there is no reason to. 

And its just about ammunition, its about clarification. He rarely actually discusses his policy plans in detail. If I were moderator I'd want to hear detailed plans and would be asking about them constantly. Hillary would be able to answer those questions.