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Einsam_Delphin said:
StarOcean said:

But you aren't fully aware of the situation surrounding it, I mean you had to ask who is lying which implies you didn't know about the deception, the biggest reason for the hate as even non NMS enthusiast can get behind it.

I'd say PR spin and detailing features in a game are two very different things. I don't see game companies saying stuff is in their game when it isn't that often. Even with Nintendo's terrible games, while they of course advertise them like they're good, they don't outright lie and say stuff like Amiibo Festival has online multiplayer. But regardless of what it's called and how often they do it, lying is lying. Really that alone is enough justification for the hate as we shouldn't let them think they can get away with selling games based on lies.

Ah, yeah the game was pretty much fully revealed ealier this year, but we didn't know that at the time, nor did we know exactly how overbearing the survival aspect would be. They made it seem like they were holding back details so there would be "surprises" for us when we played it ourselves. For me I just expected a good fun space exploration game, instead I get lies.

What is in a space exploration game as you see it? Multiplayer? Killing? Rotating planets? Space battles? What is it that you did not get from this game?



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baloofarsan said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

So you're saying the hate is ridiculous without actually knowing if it is...

What was expected was A.) a good game, that's always expected, and B.) what they (HelloGames) told us to expect and promised, most of which they did not deliever on, hence lying.

Also just curious, where do you see generic survival game in this trailer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtmEjqzg7M

Do you never critically examine youtube videos? I saw this two years ago. This is what I saw:

 

  • First person view with NO GUN! Reading about it confirmed that you would not be able to shoot at anything cause there would be sentinels protecting the planets. I really did not know what a sentinel was at the time but I was assured that this game was not about shooting.
  • WALKING (not running) on a colorful planet with animals. Colour almost always keep the CoD crowd away so it implied this would not be a very violent game.
  • Flying from one planet to another. This was a little confusing as they flew trough a space battle with BIG spaceships. I like Star Wars games with starships (like Rouge Leader) and knew I would probably like that too, but that was not really the focus of the game.
  • I did NOT see a MULTIPLAYER game and some reading about it reassured me that it was not.
  • I did not see that it was a survival game but I understood that it was a EXPLORATION game.
  • I always look out for CINEMATIC parts of trailers and the rhinoceros thing looked to me at the time as a staged thing (there is a special word for it that escapes me right now). This was a little worrying as I do not like cinematic breaks in games.
  • I totally missed that the game was somewhat associated with Sony and thought it was an independant studio. I would not have believed that it was only 10 - 15 developers.
  • What I saw and read about NMS two years ago made this the best game of E3 2014.
I have been moderatly interested in the news about NMS as I sincerely thought that this was a niche game. That kind of game rarely get much updates or news. I was totally unaware that Sean Murray was on late night TV shows in USA. Now that I look at these videos I see a developer that try to explain what the game is and a host that only want to hear the words KILL and MULTIPLAYER. The worst I have seen is IGN FIRST. This is supposed to be a journalist (gaming journalists) but fail to ask any relevant questions or even follow up on questions. 

 

 

More critically than you apparently. :L

The player briefly ran at 1:21 in the video, and while he doesn't have a gun out, he still has one, as you can see the ammo for it in the top right.

But anyway, I'm not really sure what you're getting at, I mean the bolded seems to indicate you're agreeing with me.



mZuzek said:
Oh wow, you really do hate this game.

I also love the game and have some sturdy legs. I agree it has some flaws, several of them maybe, but for what it is I found it to be pretty fun and addictive.

Now about this one issue: I looked this up to see if it was actually wiping out everything you discovered, or just wiping out the names of your discoveries - because if it was the latter, personally I wouldn't mind as much. And apparently, according to the Reddit post, it's not just only the lesser issue of the latter, but it was also in fact something that was already fixed.

So yeah, that's that. Stop spreading hate and go do something better with your life.

So it's a bug and it got patched. I thought this would be the end of the thread but oh boy.



If this game had been a fully multiplat game, everyone would have stopped bitching and hating a week ago. But, since it's a PS4 "exclusive" gotta keep that hate alive. Oh well. Glad to hear some are enjoying it for what it is. And hopefully Murray will get more features patched in.



The article on the website in the OP has been updated. So shall be the original post.



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baloofarsan said:

What is in a space exploration game as you see it? Multiplayer? Killing? Rotating planets? Space battles? What is it that you did not get from this game?

 

I didn't get a good game, but more specifically on the exploration, it's not really space exploration, just planet exploration, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, except that the planets are mostly just skin-swaps. What very limited things you can do on one planet you can do on all of them, the only really difference is the visuals, which could also be fine as a game you just sightsee in, but then that's where the survival aspect ruins even that. To do literally anything requires constant resources, and getting resources involves... shooting rocks... Very tedious and boring, a huge problem when that's half the game if not moreso. It's just not worth suffering through the monotonous gameplay just to sightsee.



thismeintiel said:
If this game had been a fully multiplat game, everyone would have stopped bitching and hating a week ago. But, since it's a PS4 "exclusive" gotta keep that hate alive. Oh well. Glad to hear some are enjoying it for what it is. And hopefully Murray will get more features patched in.

How would you go about confirming this?



Einsam_Delphin said:
baloofarsan said:

More critically than you apparently. :L

The player briefly ran at 1:21 in the video, and while he doesn't have a gun out, he still has one, as you can see the ammo for it in the top right.

But anyway, I'm not really sure what you're getting at, I mean the bolded seems to indicate you're agreeing with me.

I did not see the ammo at all.

What am I getting at? I saw, two years ago, almost the same game as I bought this year. I admit that the survival aspect is a little to much for my taste. It makes sense to have it there though to show that all planets is not as hospitable as Tellus. It is as different suits for different environments in Metroid or Zelda.



Einsam_Delphin said:
baloofarsan said:

What is in a space exploration game as you see it? Multiplayer? Killing? Rotating planets? Space battles? What is it that you did not get from this game?

I didn't get a good game, but more specifically on the exploration, it's not really space exploration, just planet exploration, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, except that the planets are mostly just skin-swaps. What very limited things you can do on one planet you can do on all of them, the only really difference is the visuals, which could also be fine as a game you just sightsee in, but then that's where the survival aspect ruins even that. To do literally anything requires constant resources, and getting resources involves... shooting rocks... Very tedious and boring, a huge problem when that's half the game if not moreso. It's just not worth suffering through the monotonous gameplay just to sightsee.

I was aware from the beginning that this was not a adventure game with epic places. In an adventure game the trailer show off all the grand designs that will be in the game (This makes me belive that Zelda BotW will be quite barren).

I understood that this was a game that would let you make your own goals (one of my goals is making tunnels - like in minecraft). To survive on an inhospitable planet was not really anything I was thinking about but it makes a lot of sense.

You are right that space between planets could have had a little more interesting things to do.



baloofarsan said:

I did not see the ammo at all.

What am I getting at? I saw, two years ago, almost the same game as I bought this year. I admit that the survival aspect is a little to much for my taste. It makes sense to have it there though to show that all planets is not as hospitable as Tellus. It is as different suits for different environments in Metroid or Zelda.

 

Top right corner of the screen.

So basically you're saying you're smart and everyone else is dumb for expecting a good game. Okay, sure, but what does that have to do with anything? That doesn't excuse them for lying and making a mediocre game.