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What gamefreak owns half of pokemon? Who the hell are they?



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BraLoD said:
Kerotan said:
What gamefreak owns half of pokemon? Who the hell are they?

The creator and developer studio...

Wait so Nintendo didn't create pokemon? tell me more!! 



mjk45 said:
curl-6 said:

Wii was in a similar position, in that like PS4 it launched a year after one competitor and around the same time as the other.

 

Kerotan said:

So is it like the pokemon company with Nintendo?  

 There are some differences, for instance gamefreak owns, iirc  50%  of the pokemon company , where as Polophony is fully owned by Sony, but for reasons I'm not to sure of it was a long time ago, they decided to create Polophony as a subsidury rather than a studio, most likely to help insure Kaz's continued involvement since GT was his baby , and you have to remember it was the PS1 era, so Sony's need to build up successful Ist party IP's to augment it's 3rd party efforts on a new console meant they had a premium  and when you have one with sales right up there with the biggest names in gaming, why it became a subsidury becomes clearer.     

sorry about that must have clicked multi quote . do you know how i stop it.              

If you multiquote a quote and want to unquote it you just have to click on the "same button" which would now read as "post in que"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

BraLoD said:
Kerotan said:

Wait so Nintendo didn't create pokemon? tell me more!! 

Pokemon was created by a lonely man that loved collecting bugs at his youth and had a game magazine called Gamefreak, later to become a videogame development studio.

Story is that he (Satoshi, the guy talked above) saw the gameboy cable link capabilities of exchanging data, and had the perfect idea to finally make a game about his young days hobby of collecting and exchanging creatures, so he went for Nintendo with his idea, and we all know how well it went.
GameFreak and also The Pokemon Company still hold rights over the brand.

GameFreak is not a first part studio, as they already developed games for the Mega Drive back in the day, and more recently a PC game, but Nintendo also owns a share of Pokemon rights. Nintendo didn't create Pokemon, but they took part on shaping it.

Still looking for what does Pokemon have to do with GT (besides the very outside idea that PD and GF aren't studios inside the mother company, but still differ as fully and partially owned)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

BraLoD said:
DonFerrari said:

Still looking for what does Pokemon have to do with GT (besides the very outside idea that PD and GF aren't studios inside the mother company, but still differ as fully and partially owned)

Dunno, someone asked questions, I'm answering them.

You are too helpfull for your own good =]

kowenicki said:
No surprise. It was an idiotic decision to release GT6 as they did. Ethomaz of course disagreed with me, called me biased and predicted sales similar to GT5 anyway. Good times.

The majority of VGC users predicted north of 8m (60% predicted this).


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=163272

Yes, you are never biased. And seeing like 60% agreed with him there isn't much you can fault him on the prediction.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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BraLoD said:
Kerotan said:

Wait so Nintendo didn't create pokemon? tell me more!! 

Pokemon was created by a lonely man that loved collecting bugs at his youth and had a game magazine called Gamefreak, later to become a videogame development studio.

Story is that he (Satoshi, the guy talked above) saw the gameboy cable link capabilities of exchanging data, and had the perfect idea to finally make a game about his young days hobby of collecting and exchanging creatures, so he went for Nintendo with his idea, and we all know how well it went.
GameFreak and also The Pokemon Company still hold rights over the brand.

GameFreak is not a first part studio, as they already developed games for the Mega Drive back in the day, and more recently a PC game, but Nintendo also owns a share of Pokemon rights. Nintendo didn't create Pokemon, but they took part on shaping it.

Incredible story.  so does gamefreak keep half the revenue from pokemon sales and Nintendo the other half? 



kowenicki said:
DonFerrari said:

You are too helpfull for your own good =]

Yes, you are never biased. And seeing like 60% agreed with him there isn't much you can fault him on the prediction.

Really?  What an odd conclusion.  I could easily fault all of them, common sense was severley lacking.

Yes, you certainly could, but then you would be faulting all of them not only ethomaz. But that is talking about other threads and people that aren't here so I won't go further.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

GOWTLOZ said:
Mr Puggsly said:

No, Forza 5 is still using superior assets that couldn't be repliectated on the PS3 or 360. For example the texture quality, car models, track detail, etc. While The Last of Us and God of War 3 are basically straight ports of what is mostly PS3 assets.

GT6 had more features such as the weather, lighting, etc. But it came at the cost of graphics and performance. I recall GT6 also had screen tear and ran a bit worse than GT5. Lastly, we already know Forza 5 was a rushed product, Forza 6 is a better example of what X1 and Turn 10 is capable of. More time was spent creating GT6 than Forza 5 and 6 combined.

The Last of Us and God of War 3 do have very impressive detail for PS3 games. Characters in Uncharted 2 have 80k polygons and The Last of Us probably has more. The environments are also very detailed. God of War 3 has an incredible scale especially the titans. It also has dynamic lighting when using the head of helios. Forza 5 has very detailed cars and roads but the environments aren't very detailed with crowds being sprites and the game only has one weather condition and very less use of particle effects.

We were talking about Forza 5 here not what the XB1 and Turn 10 are capable of doing. Forza 6 doesn't have the same problems and looks amazing even on XB1. The best comparison can be made between Forza 6 and GT Sport in terms of graphics when that releases.

Yeah, TLoU, GoW3 and other titles like Halo 4, Forza Horizon, Gears of War 3/Judgement, look fantastic for 7th gen and still look solid today.

That doesn't change the fact Forza 5 surpasses the capabilities of 7th gen hardware. The assets in Forza 5 are simply more detailed than 7th gen hardware can handle. Its better looking game than you're giving it credit for. Same goes for a game like Ryse, not the most technically impressive game but the visual assets were far ahead of what 7th gen consoles could do.



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kowenicki said:
No surprise. It was an idiotic decision to release GT6 as they did. Ethomaz of course disagreed with me, called me biased and predicted sales similar to GT5 anyway. Good times.

The majority of VGC users predicted north of 8m (60% predicted this).


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=163272

To be fair none in their right mind could have predicted the PS4 effect.  Not sony Ninty Msoft or anyone in gaming saw that beast coming.  

I dount any one was imputing that beast into their guesstimates.