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Soundwave said:

What does it tell you when you reverse course on you core campaign ideals because you're told by people in your own party and your own allies that they are stupid ideas? 

It shows you are not fit to be president. This isn't a reality TV show where things can be re-edited/refilmed if you fuck something up, real life doesn't work like that, and there is not bankruptcy court to bail you out when you make a bunch of bad business moves. 

That's what the vast majority of politicians do. Almost none of them are actually principled people who have honest positions they really believe in.

Changing your position from 1 thing you made up to get votes to another thing that might get more votes, because it's better, seems a pretty good outcome to me, given the nature of the system.



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bettergetdave said:
Nem said:

Yes, i'm sure that the person who defended equal rights for years, went in several humanitarian missions across the world, served as vice president for 8 years and was first lady for another 8 is completely power hungry and the greater evil compared to the racist dangerous reality show millionare that wants to be president.

Do you even listen to yourself? Are you so eager to become the world's laughing stock again? Bush Jr. wasn't enough?

Dude lol. Hilary was not VP at any time ever of anything. In addition I know nothing she has done to defend equal rights as far as racially or sexually. She talks about it but has done nothing. Then her party leaders make racial slants against Jews, and Hispanics by referring to them as the "Taco Bowl" (see leaked emails) and instead of denouncing it she says nothing and takes the fired head of the DNC that was involved in some of those communications and promotes her to run her campaign for the general election.

I get if you don't agree with Trump's policies but calling him racist is far fetched. He has done nothing as bad as above to indicate that. This is a line many people just keep repeating without any evidence or understanding of issues. It's a scapegoat label from the left which has revealed itself to be truly racist by their once hidden emails now revealed.

Don't worry about it. Some people just have to convince themselves people with different ideas are evil, so they feel like heroes fighting against them.



fatslob-:O said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
This isn't a game. A Trump presidency wouldn't be the apocalypse but it would still be a huge disaster. Voting for Stein will eat away at Hillary making it easier for the Donald to over. Is your Hatred of Hillary worth a Trump presidency, and all that entails for America AND the world?. Do you realize the magnitude of the situation?

No but the DNC keeping up the charade while Hillary acts like their tool according to these DNC leaks is most definitely worth risking a Trump presidency when they see everyone else as their minions ...

Political correctness may as well be the same thing as facism since the lefties keep calling out others for having unfavourable expressions or impressions of minorities ... 

Trump winning would mean making a lot of people humble and eating crow and I would very much prefer that than more big conspiracy theories turning up ...

So lets elect someone grossly unqualified because some people just cannot get through a day without making disparging remarks about other ethinicities or people of a different sexual orientation?

Talk to a Jewish person who lived in Nazi Germany about what facism is and then get back to me about how persecuted you are about "political correctness". 

Not being able to talk down to a black person or calling a gay person a "fag" any more isn't facism, it's society evolving and deciding that being an asshole in that way is no longer culturally accepted. 



Nem said:

Yes, i'm sure that the person who defended equal rights for years, went in several humanitarian missions across the world, served as vice president for 8 years and was first lady for another 8 is completely power hungry and the greater evil compared to the racist dangerous reality show millionare that wants to be president.

Do you even listen to yourself? Are you so eager to become the world's laughing stock again? Bush Jr. wasn't enough?

Oh, look at you.  Sprinkling in a little bit of history and facts into the wrath.  This should get fun.

Even something like 90% of Bernie supporters say they are going to vote for her.  She could lose, but I think it's very unlikely.



 

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Soundwave said:

So lets elect someone grossly unqualified because some people just cannot get through a day without making disparging remarks about other ethinicities or people of a different sexual orientation?

Talk to a Jewish person who lived in Nazi Germany about what facism is and then get back to me about how persecuted you are about "political correctness". 

It's like they say, "practice what you preach" and are you truly willing to support those who don't live up to their OWN damn standards ? 

I also want to bust this myth that facism only belongs to the right side when all it boils down to is a supression of an individual's rights or power so it must be nice to know that the lefties want to censor offensive speech that would be deemed as "racist" or take an even bigger cut out of a citizens salary since that leaves NO OPTIONS for them ... 



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fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:

So lets elect someone grossly unqualified because some people just cannot get through a day without making disparging remarks about other ethinicities or people of a different sexual orientation?

Talk to a Jewish person who lived in Nazi Germany about what facism is and then get back to me about how persecuted you are about "political correctness". 

It's like they say, "practice what you preach" and are you truly willing to support those who don't live up to their OWN damn standards ? 

I also want to bust this myth that facism only belongs to the right side when all it boils down to is a supression of an individual's rights or power so it must be nice to know that the lefties want to censor offensive speech that would be deemed as "racist" or take an even bigger cut out of a citizens salary since that leaves NO OPTIONS for them ... 

Like I edited in above, not being able to talk down to black people anymore or call a person a "fag" or not being able to slap a woman on the ass in the work place like you could maybe 30 years ago is not facism. 

It's the majority of society deciding those are social norms that are no longer acceptable, because they are quite frankly asshole-ish. This is a natural and normal evolution for any free society to have, over time certain norms become outdated/unacceptable. And you are even free to still do all of those things. No one is going to kill you for it. You just will have negative social repurcussions due to it most likely at some point or maybe an ass whupping depending on who you've insulted. But no one's dragging you off to some political prison because of any of that like they do in China. 



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She will lose because the angry white male conservative voters will elect Trump as the next US President.



Soundwave said:

Like I edited in above, not being able to talk down to black people anymore or call a person a "fag" or not being able to slap a woman on the ass in the work place like you could maybe 30 years ago is not facism. 

It's the majority of society deciding those are social norms that are no longer acceptable, because they are quite frankly asshole-ish. And you are even free to still do all of those things. No one is going to kill you for it. You just will have negative social repurcussions due to it most likely at some point or maybe an ass whupping depending on who you've insulted. And good riddance to bad rubbish. 

Really ? Then maybe I should test out how enlightened EVERY country is (or isn't for that matter). What is acceptable and what isn't is relative but you are far from being correct that offensive slurs with ethnic ties are not commonly used and that should be easily seen with the democratic party too who just take take them for granted instead of truly trying to humbly earn their support like the other parties are ... 

It starts out with censorship and the next thing before you know protests will be suppressed one way or another ...



I hope not. Don´t get me wrong I think that Hillary is a horrible choice for such a powefull position but everytime I see/hear Trump or his supporters speaking they remind me of Erdogan. Turkey is now a dictatorship and it started just like this, his followers believed him everything and thought that only he and he alone can solve the problems in their country. Everyone who is critizising him is lying (media etc.) and he has built up the image of an enemy (Trump -> muslims, Erdogan -> Kurds) to create/intensify fear. I know this sounds rediculous now but no one thougt that Erdogan would go ths far either. This means not that the US is automatically a dictatorship as soon as Trump is president but I can definitely imagin it.