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bunchanumbers said:

Just telling it how it is. You are the one running a straw man argument to hide the fact that he said it, then took the time to tweet it.

Hide what ? Like you hiding the rest of Trump's tweet ... 

No, you wish I was making a strawman just like how Trump wishes to annihilate his competitors but we all know your trying to save face from your skips in your logic ... 

How exactly does one come to the conclusion that wishes and hopes equates to committing treason or that a political committee is equivalent to the ENTIRE country ?



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Hacking a political party is not an attack on the US government.



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fatslob-:O said:
bunchanumbers said:

Just telling it how it is. You are the one running a straw man argument to hide the fact that he said it, then took the time to tweet it.

Hide what ? Like you hiding the rest of Trump's tweet ... 

No, you wish I was making a strawman just like how Trump wishes to annihilate his competitors but we all know your trying to save face from your skips in your logic ... 

How exactly does one come to the conclusion that wishes and hopes equates to committing treason or that a political committee is equivalent to the ENTIRE country ?

Please stop strawmanning.

Imagine you're a candidate for president. Your words hold far more weight than a average citizen. World leaders listen to the your words. Instead of being responsible and condemning the attack you praise them and encourage other countries to do the same. Literally asking other countries to conduct espionage on the country you're campaigning for. It really borders on treason.



bunchanumbers said:

Please stop strawmanning.

Imagine you're a candidate for president. Your words hold far more weight than a average citizen. World leaders listen to the your words. Instead of being responsible and condemning the attack you praise them and encourage other countries to do the same. Literally asking other countries to conduct espionage on the country you're campaigning for. It really borders on treason.

Please learn the sound logic from the poster above your post ... 

Why prohibit anyone's say when that goes against the constitution! Just because what Trump wishes for is morally reprehensible does not mean it goes against the law so how on earth did you conclude that what he tweeted is at the edge of treachery ?! What, did you just forget that the freedom of speech includes hate speech and all the other horrible things as well ? 

Whether anyone heeds the candidates words at heart or not is their liability just like how it's the crusaders or terrorists who will have to deal with the negative repercussions of their actions despite what their interpretations of their religions are ... 



I hate to say it, but if Hillary loses to Trump there will be a shitstorm. At the republican convention they basically solidified that they would rather be feared and war ready than diplomatic.



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Netyaroze said:
PwerlvlAmy said:

thats going a bit far imo but the ''theory'' out there is something will happen between BLM/NK/Isis attack that will force obama to declare either state of emergency or martial law to be imposed,which would cancel the election this year and keep him in power indefinitely past his second term lol

 

 

Doesnt sound realistic at all. Did something like this ever happen in US History ? Does this even work legally ? Also it would have to be some world changing event to justify not just a standard terror attack, not even 9/11 scale could justify that. 

legally it can be done under the right circumstances 



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bettergetdave said:
SJReiter said:
Good god, the comments in this thread are a dumpster fire. People are making such leaps in logic to connect the dots between DNC staffers trying to slander Bernie and the whole election being rigged for Hillary. Dear Bernie supporters, please listen closely, Hillary did not win because the system was rigged, she won because she received 3.2M more votes than Bernie. That's it. That's the whole ballgame right there. There was no conspiracy. There was no stolen election. Hillary won because she got millions more votes. Please don't make this into something it's not. And believe me, I was a Bernie supporter. I even donated to his campaign. But I have to say, the behavior of many Bernie supporters this past week has been truly reprehensible. Bernie himself has said that we must unite to defeat Trump. As far as I can tell if you oppose that then you're part of the problem, not the solution.

I don't know man. "super delegates"!! 300 of them were in the can for her at the word go! 6 debates when the prior years had 20 or more. Emails of DNC staffers discussing how to defame him based off of his religion. Doesn't mean Bernie would have won without all of that but to dismiss it like you are doing in my opinion is short sighted.

HC won the popular vote and the super delegate vote.  She definitely would have won the super delegate vote because guess what she is a Democrate who has served in the party for a long time.  Bernie has not served day one in the party until he wanted to become President.  Next he wanted to change the system because guess what it did not favor someone who isn't a democrate.  Lets be honest here, Bernie is not idiot.  He knew the system before he joined and he know the steep hill he had to climb in order to become the DNC choice when he definitely do not share the party views.  Its good that Bernie brought new life to the party but thinking he was going to change decades on the institution in one run is silly.  If he lives to be 80+ then he has a much better chance 



jason1637 said:
Bandorr said:

Despite the fact the FBI said "The FBI director said that no "reasonable prosecutor" would bring criminal charges in this matter, and, for that reason, the FBI will not recommend that criminal charges be brought upon Hillary Clinton.".

Hard to be a criminal with no criminal charges brought against you. Little alone being found guilty of those charges..

What she did wasnt legal. When the FBI addressed this they things they said that Clinton did arent legal, if any other person that isnt nowhere as big as clinton did what she did they would be in a lot of trouble. IMOthe decision the FBI made is bull.

Actually you are very wrong.  What she did was against her job policy but it has absolutly nothing to do with legal.  This is the problem when you do not read the facts and form your opinion on wrong information.  HC is not the only person in the government that has her own private email server or the first to use it for business.  You have to go back to Bush administration and see that Condolese Rise, Colin Powell and Bush also had their own private email servers.  Actually its well know how bad the State department email servers are and a lot of them have their own servers.  So no, if someone else as big as HC would have their own servers they would just be under administration which has been done before with people in less position then HC and as for Bush, well nothing happen since he was President.  

The reason the FBI made their decision is because they were checking to see if HC knowingly provided information or leaked information.  As to having a private email server their were never investigating that part because its not under their jurisdiction.  Just read up on it, it might not change your opinion but at least you will understand the situation much better than just going on what the Republicans are saying.



Arminillo said:
Hacking a political party is not an attack on the US government.

Actually, yes it is.  Since that person is privy to Confidential information about our government just like Trump will be now that he is the Republican nominee.  Asking another nation to compromise our government or any high level state official past, present or future is right up there with treason.  Asking another government to affect our presidential system is also right up there with Treason.  Think how other nations view the US when we meddle in such things so why would you think this is a non-issue.  The state department is already putting Trump under investigation to see if he actually have any deals with Russia and has privately asked them to do this.



fatslob-:O said:
bunchanumbers said:

Please stop strawmanning.

Imagine you're a candidate for president. Your words hold far more weight than a average citizen. World leaders listen to the your words. Instead of being responsible and condemning the attack you praise them and encourage other countries to do the same. Literally asking other countries to conduct espionage on the country you're campaigning for. It really borders on treason.

Please learn the sound logic from the poster above your post ... 

Why prohibit anyone's say when that goes against the constitution! Just because what Trump wishes for is morally reprehensible does not mean it goes against the law so how on earth did you conclude that what he tweeted is at the edge of treachery ?! What, did you just forget that the freedom of speech includes hate speech and all the other horrible things as well ? 

Whether anyone heeds the candidates words at heart or not is their liability just like how it's the crusaders or terrorists who will have to deal with the negative repercussions of their actions despite what their interpretations of their religions are ... 

Who said anything about prohibiting freedom of speech? Its about having the common sense to not say something that could harm his candidacy. Instead of thinking he is going all over the place. And because of this he is learning the hard way about the weight of his words. I hope that he keeps on talking. He is only making it worse for himself and the GOP.