Wow, just wow! At least you're more honest about the purpose of the law than the politicians who voted for it... so there's that...

Goddammit.

I always mess up my m's and n's while texting 

the declaration of independence wrote:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

i just don't care about the issue,.. so long as no sexual/physical abuse is occuring then do what makes you happy.  as far as i've ever heard no transgender has ever caused problems in a bathroom.

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

The link that explains the guy is in fact a woman? How do you think that doesn't matter given the text of your first post, if you think that isn't important I dare think what other information you think doesn't matter in this case alone. See the point where being overly correct with pronouns to the point where it muddles the actual issue of your first post is where it's defeating their purpose.

Anyway I'll be honest, lack of clear info, broken images to people with questions about the pictures... can't really discuss that, I'm not going off to google those people in all fairness and I can't obviously make a reply to what I think of two broken links.... unless that is what those people actually look like after some odd surgery in which case I'm not sure which bathroom they should use.

Just never text order a bag of N and Ns then!

Moved to PM

Where in the quoted post did I do that? Or do you prefer to go for a strawman and jump back to something said earlier in the thread because that wasn't related, cop on a bit move along with the discussion and don't just start jumping back to things you feel like you have a point about, you don't that was clear, now leave it be.

Your original post said the fact of using bathrooms based on birth and then refered to the pictured person twice as a guy, by law the person in the post is no more a guy just because he has had surgery to implant hairs on his chin, in the law it's still a woman so if you are referring to them in their correct "by law" definition you would say "this woman needs to use the womens bathroom (even though he looks like a guy)"

The thing is though, if that person went into every gents public bathroom and didn't say a thing about it no one else would raise an eyebrow, like there hasn't been too many bathrooms that I know of which have a door man on them checking ID cards to ensure that people are the correct gender inside them, I'm just saying sure there might be a law saying to use your birth bathroom but at the same time there is many laws which are overlooked day to day because they might not fit a certain situation very well but they're unlikely to be enforced.

Has this law actually been enforced in places btw? has there been dickchecks set up outside mens bathrooms? I normally try to not keep up to date with "news" about these things, or is the whole thing about the fact that the law which should more be a guideline exists in 2016?

There wouldn't BE a debate if the federal government would just pass a law stating that all public places should have a family bathroom. They're single stalls and have a lock on the door and gender/sex neutral.

Everyone wins... everyone is happy, problem solved. And if someone STILL had a problem? Then fuck them lol

From a point of view of costs it's far cheaper to divide to male/female bathrooms since a guys toilet will have 1/4th the number of actual stalls and toilets that a girls bathroom will have and instead have a far cheaper urinal which cannot be put in family bathroom type things, sure if you are talking about just a single bathroom just have it as a gender neutral one, but if you need to have an amount of toilets, it's cheaper to go Male/Female seperately.