So did you watch the video?

It is absurd to me that in any first world country you have to think about carrying a gun with you just because you think some nutjob might try to shoot you when you leave the house.

It's a thought process that in Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan, even China and Russia is something no one thinks about.

I don't think having dozens of drunk people with guns in nightclub is the smartest idea either. Yeah you might prevent one mass shooting, only to have double-triple the amount of people getting shot/killed because of typical bar fights only now someone is going to get shot/killed instead of just punched in the face.

I wonder how many people proposing that actually have stepped into a nightclub in the last 20 years, lol? Fights start over stupid shit in clubs all the time, one guy hits on another guy's girlfriend, some girl gets a drink spilled on her shirt, hell I've seen brawls break out just because one guy bumped into another guy and then words got exchanged. If they had guns ... that would've gotten real ugly, real quick because by about 1 AM, most people in a bar are semi-shit faced.

Why would I do that?  You put a disclaimer that the video was rebutting something other than the charts and figures here.  If there's something in the video substantive to this discussion, feel free to mention it.  Otherwise it's irrelevant here.

At least some people from the left are starting to understand why alot of people buy guns in the first place. Self-protection.

I don't even know anybody that owns a gun, (at least not that they've mentioned or I've seen) and in all my life I've never even touched an actual firearm. We haven't had a gun massacre here since 1996, so the idea that I might need a firearm to protect myself is as foreign to me as owning a doomsday bunker in case aliens invade. Most of my life, this is just something I saw as normal and took for granted, but these days I feel very lucky indeed.

Do we know of stories in which "guns for protection" worked?

What massacres were stopped by someone who owned a gun for protection?



The Orlando shooter was investigated multiple times by the FBI, he had connections to a suicide bomber, and somehow he legally bought the gun he used just before the shooting?

http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/

^ Some more notable cases. 

Also there are FBI statistics on gun protection.  Here is a left-biased article on it, with a low-end estimate of 67,750 times a year. (That is an extremely conservative estimate.) 

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-guns-self-defense-charleston-20150619-story.html

The center also dives into the thorny thicket of how often the presence of a gun stops a crime — either violent or against property, such as a burglary — from happening. The gun lobby trots out an annual figure of 2.5 million such instances. But an analysis of five years’ worth of stats collected by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey puts the number much, much lower — about 67,740 times a year.

litterally dozens of times a day, hundreds of thousands to millions of times a year.

here's a starting point: http://gunssavelives.net/

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