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I think the PS4(normal model) will be 300 dollars this holiday, but as you said, wont have a permanent price drop until next year.As for Neo, it will be at least 100 dollars more expensive.



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The ps4 is already at 350... Selling it at 300$ with a "prime" alternative at 400. - 450$ would make sense.. The idea is to boost the sales even more, not just maintain them.



299 slim.
The neo was a fake leak, to test reaction.



alabtrosMyster said:

The ps4 is already at 350... Selling it at 300$ with a "prime" alternative at 400. - 450$ would make sense.. The idea is to boost the sales even more, not just maintain them.

The Slim will cause a boost in sales without a price cut. Plus if they drop the consoles price to $300, they will have to drop it again by at least another $50 during the holiday. A $350 slim/PS4 and $450 Neo at E3, $300 slim/PS4 and $400 Neo this holiday sounds more reasonable to me and a better startegy for Sony to maximise profits.



SWORDF1SH said:

I think a $299 Neo for the start on 2017 is way to optimistic. Let's not forget that the PS4 has only had 1 $50 price cut in 2 and a  half years.

The PS4 as it stands probably costs less to make than an XB1. That's tbanks in part to the less complex APU design in the PS4 and RAM fabrication improvements. Sony dropping the price just once in 2+ yrs has more to do with bot needing to than not being able to. 

The PS4n selling at $400 is being sold at a premium. Or at whatever Sony chooses to sell it for when it launches. That's just due to higher margins. I don't believe it's going to cost them more than $10 more to make the PS4n if it's not even gonna probably cost less. Going with a 16nm chip simply means more chips can fit on a wafer. Which means lower overall chip costs. That coupled with cost reductions across the board will lead to a cheaper console or at least one at the same price of the current PS4. 

Why I believe they will drop to $299 within the first half of net year is cause by that time they would have not only sold over 60M consoles but at that time they will also have a new contender in the NX. Dropping to $299 won't kill them, they will probably still be breaking even at the very least on hardware. But it will pretty much kill off any competition and would lead to a YOY spike in sales. Let's not forget they also have PSVr, getting the PS4 as low as possible is a great way to bolster PSVr sales. 

Just what I think tho lol...... I could very well be wrong about everything and the Neo gets announced at $599 and the PS4 core drops to $249 and Sony gives everyone free games for a year...... oh, and tosses in a free 75" 4k TV too. 



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Intrinsic said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I think a $299 Neo for the start on 2017 is way to optimistic. Let's not forget that the PS4 has only had 1 $50 price cut in 2 and a  half years.

The PS4 as it stands probably costs less to make than an XB1. That's tbanks in part to the less complex APU design in the PS4 and RAM fabrication improvements. Sony dropping the price just once in 2+ yrs has more to do with bot needing to than not being able to. 

The PS4n selling at $400 is being sold at a premium. Or at whatever Sony chooses to sell it for when it launches. That's just due to higher margins. I don't believe it's going to cost them more than $10 more to make the PS4n if it's not even gonna probably cost less. Going with a 16nm chip simply means more chips can fit on a wafer. Which means lower overall chip costs. That coupled with cost reductions across the board will lead to a cheaper console or at least one at the same price of the current PS4. 

Why I believe they will drop to $299 within the first half of net year is cause by that time they would have not only sold over 60M consoles but at that time they will also have a new contender in the NX. Dropping to $299 won't kill them, they will probably still be breaking even at the very least on hardware. But it will pretty much kill off any competition and would lead to a YOY spike in sales. Let's not forget they also have PSVr, getting the PS4 as low as possible is a great way to bolster PSVr sales. 

Just what I think tho lol...... I could very well be wrong about everything and the Neo gets announced at $599 and the PS4 core drops to $249 and Sony gives everyone free games for a year...... oh, and tosses in a free 75" 4k TV too. 

lol @ last para.

But I agree with your first paragraph and that's why I believe there wont be any drastic pricecuts because Sony don't need to. Plus Sony will have the $300 Slim/Ps4 against the NX and will be in a great position to react with another $50 pricecut if they struggle against the NX



twintail said:
I am failing to see the need for a Slim tbqh.

And I really doubt Sony would risk introducing 2 new, and different SKUs into the market at the same time.

Wouldn't a slim be able to replace the current SKU?



teigaga said:
twintail said:
I am failing to see the need for a Slim tbqh.

And I really doubt Sony would risk introducing 2 new, and different SKUs into the market at the same time.

Wouldn't a slim be able to replace the current SKU?

I think he means the Neo and the Slim



SWORDF1SH said:

lol @ last para.

But I agree with your first paragraph and that's why I believe there wont be any drastic pricecuts because Sony don't need to. Plus Sony will have the $300 Slim/Ps4 against the NX and will be in a great position to react with another $50 pricecut if they struggle against the NX

Well, that is if and only if Sony keeps the current PS4 as a "slim" option and sells it along side the Neo. I domt think that's what will happen tho. 

I think the Neo will actually be smaller than the current PS4. I also think Sony will phase out the current PS4. They probably have certain manufacturing commitments tied to the current PS4 so we may still see them around for a bit. But those contracts will not be renewed with focus shifting exclusively to the Neo manufacturing. It's just all round cheaper having One SKU in the market. 

Once the PS4 quotas are met, all there will be is the PS4 neo. 

I think people haven't really thought about what a 16nm fab process allows. Currently on a 28nm process the PS4 SOC has a footprint of around 350mm2. technically, going to a 16nm process should mean you can basically make 3-4 times more chips on the same wafer if the SOC were an exact like or like shrink. But we know they GPU has been doubled. Overall, the SOC is more powerful, but it will still come in at less than 350mm2. Barring initial fabrication defects (which are usually higher at the start of any new fab process) the PS4 SOC will ultimately be costing Sony less down the road. 

All that is saying is that I don't think dropping to $299 sometime next year is "drastic" per say. But hey, I thought by now the PS4 would be retailing for $299 so that about tells you how good my predictions are. 



There isn't going to be a slim model this year and even if there was, it's going to be $299, not $399. Also, I expect Neo to be $399. It sounds a lot better than $449, and I doubt Sony wants such a high price that consumers might not be all that willing to pay.