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Boutros said:
Teeqoz said:

I've seen this number elsewhere on the internet, but do you have a source (for 20 million)? Also, it opened to 560,000 $ in France for those who are interested.

Yeah it's actually $15.3 million (not sure whether it's USD or CAD) with $10.1 million net of refundable tax credits. So the movie was really cheap to make for Rainmaker.

Here's the financial report in which it is discussed (page 4):

http://www.rainmaker.com/pdf/Q2%202015%20quarterly%20report.pdf

That is interesting, also rainmaker stop teasing REBOOT! Wonder what the split was between Rainmaker and the other partners. So this might actually have 20-30 million production budget, color me impressed. 



 

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Looking forward to this! I love video game and anime CG movies (ie.FFVII Advent Children & Resident Evil)



Wikipedia, as reliable as it may be, has box office numbers at $559,127. Depending on the budget, these numbers may be abysmal.



Ljink96 said:
Wikipedia, as reliable as it may be, has box office numbers at $559,127. Depending on the budget, these numbers may be abysmal.

That's only France lol



Boutros said:
Ljink96 said:
Wikipedia, as reliable as it may be, has box office numbers at $559,127. Depending on the budget, these numbers may be abysmal.

That's only France lol

Ah, I see. The movie doesn't show WW until the 28th. Thank God.



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Boutros said:
Teeqoz said:

I've seen this number elsewhere on the internet, but do you have a source (for 20 million)? Also, it opened to 560,000 $ in France for those who are interested.

Yeah it's actually $15.3 million (not sure whether it's USD or CAD) with $10.1 million net of refundable tax credits. So the movie was really cheap to make for Rainmaker.

Here's the financial report in which it is discussed (page 4):

http://www.rainmaker.com/pdf/Q2%202015%20quarterly%20report.pdf

That's how much Rainmaker invested. but as the relevant paragraph states, it was a co-investment, so $15.3M isn't the total cost of production.

"In 2013, the Company entered into an arrangement with Blockade Entertainment LLC (“Blockade”), and CNHK Media China and Beijing Ruiqixingqiu Movie and Culture Limited (collectively “CNHK”) to co-invest and co-produce the film Ratchet & Clank. Under the terms of the arrangement, the Company agreed to invest in the development and production of the film. This investment entitles Rainmaker to a majority interest in the film, subject to future potential negotiations of participation from additional parties. In order to facilitate enhancements and final deliverables of the film, the Company increased its investment in the film. The Company had invested $15.3 million ($10.1 million net of refundable tax credits) by June 30, 2015. The production was considered substantially complete at March 31, 2015"

I would think the total budget could come in anywhere from $20-40M. But this was the right approach to budget for a video game adaptation. Try to keep the budget down so as to not demand unreal box office performance in order to achieve a profit. In any case, I think an internal benchmark of $75M worldwide gross would be necessary to consider the movie a reasonable success, and potentially worth a sequel. <$50M would be floppage.

$560K is not a bad start in France. I expect it to run for 3, or maybe 4 weeks. So it's going to be hard to crack $1 million there.



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GribbleGrunger said:
As I expected actually. I don't expect it to do that well in terms of box office but I reckon it will at least give the game a second wind.

The game just came out two weeks ago/like three days ago in most of Europe! It's more of an extended wind really!

 

It'll only help the game though, even though the game has outperformed any other game in the series in sales thus far.

 

Acevil said:
Teeqoz said:

A lot of the movies' scenes doubled down as cutscenes in the game though, so this movies' budget is certainly not on the level of many of the big budget animation film.

I would still imagine it not being below 50 million budget, the lowest animation budget I think I seen on big screen movie is like 30 million, but those are not really on the same level as this movie and the higher on the list. I would be very surprised if the budget of this film is not 60-80 million when it comes out. 

The game and film have been stated numerous times to share a $40m budget. The film, I believe, got $25 specifically but that was never confirmed outright. The game alone likely already made most of the budget back based on preliminary sales statements (best Ratchet launch everywhere it's launched thus far, number one in UK last week, etc.). That's not accounting for the marketing, of course, since that figure is unknown. The game alone is going to make back the budget for both, marketing included, by the time the next game hits in late 2017/early 2018 though, I'm sure, since it's very likely going to break 2m sales at least. 

 

Edit: Nevermind my recollection was flipped. The film was $15m, the game $25m, as noted above. 



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This doesn't even release in Australia and New Zealand for another 3 months :(



think-man said:
This doesn't even release in Australia and New Zealand for another 3 months :(

Yeah, that's pretty sucky because I reckon a lot of people will watch it online because they don't want to wait that long. Although not huge markets, I think this movie will need every ticket sale it can get, and it's going to miss out on a lot of NZ and AU sales.



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binary solo said:
think-man said:
This doesn't even release in Australia and New Zealand for another 3 months :(

Yeah, that's pretty sucky because I reckon a lot of people will watch it online because they don't want to wait that long. Although not huge markets, I think this movie will need every ticket sale it can get, and it's going to miss out on a lot of NZ and AU sales.

I reckon it could have mustered up 800k - 1 million combined