no im saying ms could do it.  And Sony is bleeding money they had to sell their Head quarters last year to pay bills.  The only line they make money in is the ps4 line.  They have exited the laptop game and soon will exit the phone game.

They sold 27 million phones last year and didn't make a profit in that sector.  Go figure!  Soon after they will be a gaming company only.

Theres a high chance everything stays the same.

ps4k sells the most.
x1.5 sells half of what ps4 sells
nx a bit less then x1.5.

PS4

Most people, myself included, assume the NX is a new console. The vast majority of "leaks" and "rumors" point to that, and logically Nintendo needs to replace it first anyway (the 3ds can last another year or two compared to the Wii U). The PS4k is most certainly a very powerful PS4, not VR or a handheld. I know the x1.5 doesn't exist currently, but Microsoft may change their minds so they aren't the weakest console in the market. I wouldn't say I'm ahead of myself. It's logical to assume that these devices will be similar in power, yet their predecessors will have market share of their own that these new devices will have to compete with.

NX dominates

Considering the WiiU performance,  why are you so sure the NX won't flop?

The NX, being the new ecosystem, has the most to gain or lose.
I don't see Microsoft or Sony losing much ground based on giving customers another option, but the NX is THE way forward for Nintendo. They have to start competing with ecosystems that already have several hundred games created for them, and I don't see how that happens outside the hardcore userbase.

I sometimes question Microsoft's true dedication to the Xbox brand. The only reason is because Xbox is NOT remotely their bread and butter. Windows is their main source of income by far, though I hear now cloud computing is becoming their thing more and more. With Phil Spencer's efforts sure gives the platform more credibility, but they are contrasted a bit from the other companies.

Nintendo is easy. They are only about games. Yes there are Amiibo and a theme park etc, but at it's core they are a video game company even if they is now extending to smartphones in some capacity. They live and die by video games by and large so you know their commitment is real even if many gamers have tragically abandoned them. Their heart and soul is video games.

Sony is more difficult. They reluctantly entered the video game market, but caught fire immediately and now it is their greatest tent pole. Their company has hemorrhaged money in sections of it's business except the Playstation brand. They are going to give it their everything to nurse that money stream for sure.

Microsoft could leave the video game market tomorrow and they would be fine. I am quite confident they wouldn't miss a beat. That being said, I would find it sad to see them go. I do believe in many ways they keep Sony honest and innovating, not to mention pushing hardware forward.

If there is to be a new machine so soon from Sony, Microsoft would be wise to definitely release their next iteration AFTER, preferably soon after, Sony releases theirs. If Microsoft is serious in competing with Sony, then they should wait and let Sony weather and backlash from consumers upset with a new machine so soon. Second, in doing so they can release a new machine conscious free because, hey, after all Sony has already done it. Third and the BIGGEST reason is after all the abuse the XB1 took over being underpowered, MAKE THE NEW XBOX MORE POWERFUL!!!!! It may not save Microsoft because it didn't help with the PS2/Xbox original battle, but they were an upstart with no presence, things MIGHT be different, but at least Xbox wouldn't be the whipping boy any more.

Nintendo's new machine needs to best the PS4, not so much the PS4.5, but if it comes out under PS4 without a life saving gimmick, then Nintendo will continue in the legacy of Gamecube/WiiU, great 1st party games, but no sales. This coming from a Nintendo man at heart.

I do

I have a feeling, that from very start (Original Xbox) their main goal was not getting money, but to assure that all gaming will be on x86 architecture. And with PS4/X1 generation it seems they done it. Now they can be a kings. If NX truly x86 to  - even more - Emperor. 

Its quite possible, that next Xbox will never release. And what if PS5 will run Windows 11? )))

Also I have a feeling that all the noise and hype around Steam Machines was a part of a plot. Just tell me whats the difference between PS4/X1 and steam machines?