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Aeolus451 on 09 April 2016

Thanks people for letting me know about being able to play music via usb. I didn't know about that shit.



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Ruler on 09 April 2016
sabvre42 said:
Mr_No said:

An upside of this is that there won't be need of sticking that atrocious NYKO Data Bank onto the PS4.

Even if it's designed for relational databases in mind, would a PS4 really benefit from it, apart from the high-speed capabilities of a SSD?

Yes, and No.

The PS4 doesn't use Sata III, and so never hits the full potential of using a SSD. To be honest, I don't even know if the ps4 would even hit full potential of a 10k RPM mechanical drive. In my opinion, a 7200RPM SSHD is the best option for the current PS4.

The Gen 2 (3 if you consider the 1200 gen 2) PS4 better have SATA III man...

There are various sources and benchmarks proving you wrong even for SSD performance used on PS3



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Pemalite on 09 April 2016
Ruler said:
sabvre42 said:

Yes, and No.

The PS4 doesn't use Sata III, and so never hits the full potential of using a SSD. To be honest, I don't even know if the ps4 would even hit full potential of a 10k RPM mechanical drive. In my opinion, a 7200RPM SSHD is the best option for the current PS4.

The Gen 2 (3 if you consider the 1200 gen 2) PS4 better have SATA III man...

There are various sources and benchmarks proving you wrong even for SSD performance used on PS3

He is saying "Full potential".

That isn't to say they don't see a benefit... But you will not get the most out of an SSD on the PS3 and PS4, because the interface that connects the drive to the machine... Isn't fast enough to keep up to an SSD.

For example... Sata 2 will max out at 300MB/s. SSD's can exceed 500MB/s on even mid-range drives, mechanical drives though should be fine, they usually top out at around 150MB/s in sustained.
The main advantage of an SSD though is those access times, that is where the real advantages come out.



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Ruler on 09 April 2016
Pemalite said:
Ruler said:

There are various sources and benchmarks proving you wrong even for SSD performance used on PS3

He is saying "Full potential".

That isn't to say they don't see a benefit... But you will not get the most out of an SSD on the PS3 and PS4, because the interface that connects the drive to the machine... Isn't fast enough to keep up to an SSD.

For example... Sata 2 will max out at 300MB/s. SSD's can exceed 500MB/s on even mid-range drives, mechanical drives though should be fine, they usually top out at around 150MB/s in sustained.
The main advantage of an SSD though is those access times, that is where the real advantages come out.

Hes saying the same about a 10,000 mechanical drive which is BS. PS4 uses also usb 3.0 as the bus which will uttilize the sata 3 speed, thats why you cant plug in an external drive.



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Cobretti2 on 09 April 2016

4tb 2.5inch is silly.

add external hdd support.

all the media features too little too late. I upgraded to plex and never looked back lol.



 

 

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sabvre42 on 09 April 2016
Ruler said:
Pemalite said:

He is saying "Full potential".

That isn't to say they don't see a benefit... But you will not get the most out of an SSD on the PS3 and PS4, because the interface that connects the drive to the machine... Isn't fast enough to keep up to an SSD.

For example... Sata 2 will max out at 300MB/s. SSD's can exceed 500MB/s on even mid-range drives, mechanical drives though should be fine, they usually top out at around 150MB/s in sustained.
The main advantage of an SSD though is those access times, that is where the real advantages come out.

Hes saying the same about a 10,000 mechanical drive which is BS. PS4 uses also usb 3.0 as the bus which will uttilize the sata 3 speed, thats why you cant plug in an external drive.

 

No,  i said a 10k mechanical would not hit throughput cap as quickly as a SSD. Also, usb 3.0 is not sata 3. It is usb 3.0, the hard drive bay is sata 2.



chao2344 on 09 April 2016
FentonCrackshell said:
Why doesn't "Improvements to PS+" include better games? So sick of all this Indy crap.

it will geet better as they drop ps3 I imagine. 



sabvre42 on 09 April 2016
chao2344 said:
FentonCrackshell said:
Why doesn't "Improvements to PS+" include better games? So sick of all this Indy crap.

it will geet better as they drop ps3 I imagine. 

Imo, vita will go first. I'm betting ps3 has more single device subs.



aLkaLiNE on 09 April 2016
Cobretti2 said:
4tb 2.5inch is silly.

add external hdd support.

all the media features too little too late. I upgraded to plex and never looked back lol.

I think some of us obsessive compulsive neat freaks out there would be really annoyed by having to hook up an external hard drive to increase storage. For a simplistic, neat look, I opted last gen to internally increase my PS3 storage. No good excuse to change that now except laziness. With that in mind I'm glad Sony doesn't need a power box either. There's some major wizardy going on inside the little but potent PS4.



Cobretti2 on 09 April 2016
aLkaLiNE said:
Cobretti2 said:
4tb 2.5inch is silly.

add external hdd support.

all the media features too little too late. I upgraded to plex and never looked back lol.

I think some of us obsessive compulsive neat freaks out there would be really annoyed by having to hook up an external hard drive to increase storage. For a simplistic, neat look, I opted last gen to internally increase my PS3 storage. No good excuse to change that now except laziness. With that in mind I'm glad Sony doesn't need a power box either. There's some major wizardy going on inside the little but potent PS4.

There is plenty of good reasons for having externals.

Installed games and patches would not need to be uninstalled. 

If you run out of space you simply just hook up another drive and swap between them to play other games.

You don't need to everytime you upgrade drive space run a system backup (meaning you need a further drive for the backup) and then reinstall it all again on the new drive.