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Normchacho said:
barneystinson69 said:

Ummm... whenever I here this, I have one thing to correct them on. We were built on white immigration, and see how its worked. Now that we're seeing an influx of other races, its becoming a disaster. And the economy is doing terribly, so why should we need immigrants? BS excuse to buy votes by the sounds of it...

Holy shit...is this sarcastic? That is, textbook racism and is a ridiculous thing to say.

Politically incorrect would be the more accurate assessment.

Racism is a belief that one race is superior or inferior to other races. However, that wasn't what barney was trying to say. Something like "We were built on white immigration because only white people know how to do immigration policies right" would be an actual racist statement.



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barneystinson69 said:

We're seeing our native population slowly being eliminated because we "need" more immigrants! 

Agreed, all these white immigrants have caused countless deaths of indigenous Canadians.



barneystinson69 said:
Aura7541 said:

This isn't even a race issue. It's a cultural issue. The west didn't have problem accepting immigrants from places like Asia because the cultures there do not infringe on basic human rights. However, the refugees (and this term has been used very loosely) Canada wants to take in come from a culture that has... quite a lot of problems.

I agree on your stance on refugee's. But the liberals should focus on trying to increase our birthrate, not destroy the native Canadian population!

Just to be clear, I'm not against accepting refugees, but dear god, taking in that many in such a short time is asking for trouble socially and economically.

As for increasing the birthrate, I don't think that should be the priority, but I am an ignorant American :P What I think is more important is for Canada to show restraint and listen to its constituents, not just to one side of the political spectrum. Accept immigrants at a reasonable pace with a robust vetting process and do not be afraid to turn someone away if the person has a criminal background or doesn't have valid documents.



curl-6 said:
barneystinson69 said:

We're seeing our native population slowly being eliminated because we "need" more immigrants! 

Agreed, all these white immigrants have caused untold deaths of indigenous Canadians.

And the obvious first nation's jokes...

 

As if the Australian's or American's have treated them so well. Either way, you knew what I was talking about. Canada doesn't need immigration, we need to close up, and start focusing on a healthy birthrate!



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barneystinson69 said:
curl-6 said:

Agreed, all these white immigrants have caused untold deaths of indigenous Canadians.

And the obvious first nation's jokes...

As if the Australian's or American's have treated them so well. Either way, you knew what I was talking about. Canada doesn't need immigration, we need to close up, and start focusing on a healthy birthrate!

I never excused America or Australia. If anything, my own country (Aus) has an even worse history of indigenous persecution; colonists actually managed to successfully exterminate the native population of Tasmania, which if I recall correctly is the only completely successful example of genocide in history.

I'm all for the sensible regulation of a country's immigrant intake, I just couldn't resist pointing out the inherent irony.



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its all f@@cking liberal bs. they let all these garbage people in to milk the system and steal our health care and screw up the system. then they

pull off the biggest scams and rob the people blind. they still get elected bc all these garbage immigrants vote for

them no matter what. they raise taxes and destroy all the people that work hard for a living. we need THE DONALD

HERE to close the borders.



barneystinson69 said:
Normchacho said:

Holy shit...is this sarcastic? That is, textbook racism and is a ridiculous thing to say.

Oh no, sorry for being "offensive". But maybe you'll look at Europe as a textbook example. Muslums migrants have caused nothing but trouble! You know I use to support immigration, but now this is out of hand. We're seeing our native population slowly being eliminated because we "need" more immigrants! This is political correctness that's the issue, not racism!

No, no,no. Lets clear this up right now. What you said isn't bad because it's offensive. Actually, I don't know when that became the "go to" to defend an ignorant statement, but it needs to stop. The problem with what you said isn't that it's offensive, it's that it's ignorant. Those are very, very different things. What you said didn't come from a place of understanding. Offensive or not, it was an ignorant thing to say.

Now that we have that out of the way, lets talk what's wrong with your actual statement.

Any time that you have a group of people move into a culturally different area en masse you see large spikes in crime.

Between 1890 and 1900, 1.4 million Italians immigrated to the United States. 1.4 million people in a time when it was much more difficult to immigrate, and in a time when the U.S. had 1/4 the people it does now. You know what happened? Crime went through the roof and stayed there for decades.

Because of that, Italians faced very real discrimmination for much of the late 19th, and early 20th century.

The same thing happened when the Irish arrived in the mid 1800's.

It's a huge part of why the U.S. was so reluctant to take refugees during WWII.

The connection between immigration and crime has nothing to do with race.



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Aura7541 said:
Normchacho said:

Holy shit...is this sarcastic? That is, textbook racism and is a ridiculous thing to say.

Politically incorrect would be the more accurate assessment.

Racism is a belief that one race is superior or inferior to other races. However, that wasn't what barney was trying to say. Something like "We were built on white immigration because only white people know how to do immigration policies right" would be an actual racist statement.

"Now that we're seeing an influx of other races, its becoming a disaster"

How is that not a racist statement? He's saying that immigration is okay when it's white immigration, but not when it's people of different races...



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Normchacho said:
barneystinson69 said:

Oh no, sorry for being "offensive". But maybe you'll look at Europe as a textbook example. Muslums migrants have caused nothing but trouble! You know I use to support immigration, but now this is out of hand. We're seeing our native population slowly being eliminated because we "need" more immigrants! This is political correctness that's the issue, not racism!

No, no,no. Lets clear this up right now. What you said isn't bad because it's offensive. Actually, I don't know when that became the "go to" to defend an ignorant statement, but it needs to stop. The problem with what you said isn't that it's offensive, it's that it's ignorant. Those are very, very different things. What you said didn't come from a place of understanding. Offensive or not, it was an ignorant thing to say.

Now that we have that out of the way, lets talk what's wrong with your actual statement.

Any time that you have a group of people move into a culturally different area en masse you see large spikes in crime.

Between 1890 and 1900, 1.4 million Italians immigrated to the United States. 1.4 million people in a time when it was much more difficult to immigrate, and in a time when the U.S. had 1/4 the people it does now. You know what happened? Crime went through the roof and stayed there for decades.

Because of that, Italians faced very real discrimmination for much of the late 19th, and early 20th century.

The same thing happened when the Irish arrived in the mid 1800's.

It's a huge part of why the U.S. was so reluctant to take refugees during WWII.

The connection between immigration and crime has nothing to do with race.

These figure's are over 100 years old! Times have changed! You want to know what Canada's generosity has got us? In Ottawa, all those Somalian street gangs? Thanks to us bringing them in in times of need! The vietnemese? Turned Vancouver into a place for organized crime! You want proof?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_Canada

 

Check the number of "caucasian".



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

barneystinson69 said:

Oh no, sorry for being "offensive". But maybe you'll look at Europe as a textbook example. Muslums migrants have caused nothing but trouble! You know I use to support immigration, but now this is out of hand. We're seeing our native population slowly being eliminated because we "need" more immigrants! This is political correctness that's the issue, not racism!

This is one of the most hilariously ironic things I've read in a long, long time.  Awesome.  Poor white natives sure have it rough with these bad immigrants coming over and destroying our culture.

Honestly the best laugh I've had in awhile.  10/10