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AlfredoTurkey said:
Ruler said:

he isnt a warhawk, Hillary Clinton is. He made himself a billionair while Hillary lives from tax payers, he has more credibility 

I don't support Clinton but two points on Trump I'd like to adress. First, he didn't make himself anything. His father did, and he was lucky enough to have been his son. Second, I'm not so sure "billionaire" is what this country needs right now. When you have people living on the street, starving to death and unable to get health care to cure the pneumonia that set in, thanks to not having said place to live, I think worrying about making more money is the least of our problems. When you have kids with high IQs who would otherwise become great members of society if not born into famlies where neither parent gives a shit... again, making boat loads of capital is the probably the least of our worries.

Having said all of this, Trump, again, isn't a politician. Less than a decade ago, the guy was a reality TV personality for crying out loud. He's an entertainer, not someone with the tact or experience to run the free world and solve serious issues. He knows he'd look silly in a national debate. He knows he can't win over rational, middle thinking swing voters. He knows he's not winning the nomination. This is about making money before bowing out.. nothing more. 

1. Trump became a multi-billionaire and created one of the most famous brand names in the world. Donald's brother died of alcoholism and died poor - if having a rich father is all you need to succeed why did Donald's brother fail so hard?

2. Why would you want Trump to address who his father is? Makes no sense.

3. We need money to help with this stuff. How are we going to get cures if we don't have money for research and development?

4. Exactly, Trump ISN'T a politician and that's why we like him! We don't need anymore politicians.

5. He doesn't have experience? Jeb Bush has spent $80 million on his campaign to be at 3% in the polls. Jeb Bush spent $36 million in New Hampshire only to be beaten by 25% by Trump who spent $3 million. How is this not experience? These politicians have no clue how to spend money or what to do. They're total jokes!

6. Trump has LOST money. Remember when NBC, Macy's, and ESPN dropped him? This run has NOTHING to do with money.



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Scoobes said:
McDonaldsGuy said:

 

Here is Israel's border wall:

 

Mexico deports more illegal Central Americans than the USA does: http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-now-deports-more-central-americans-than-the-us-2015-6

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico now deports more Central American migrants than the United States, a dramatic shift since the U.S. asked Mexico for help a year ago with a spike in illegal migration, especially among unaccompanied minors.

Do you know why these countries protect their borders?

Not sure you really want to be looking to Saudia Arabia or Israel for advice on border considering the host ofproblems they both have. The Israel wall is approx. 430 miles. The Saudia Arabia-Iraq fencing/wall is 560 miles. 

The US-Mexico border in just under 2000 miles. How exactly would Trump pay for this? How feasible a plan would it actually be? Please don't say he'd make Mexico pay for it because that would never happen in the real world. Besides, I think the US has plenty of other areas they could spend the money on. 

The border is 2,000 miles but we only need fencing for about 700-800 miles of it.

Mexico will pay for the wall. And before you say that's not how it works - Trump had the media pay for his campaign.



I must say he is 100% right about the fact that the US should never have gone into Iraq, that the Bush admin totally lied, and knew they were lying, about WMD in Iraq, and that the US has achieved negative results in the middle east over the last 15 years.

So +1 respect for that.

Mostly though I don't think I've heard any sensible policies from the Don for what to do. It's all fine and good to be wise after the fact, but if there isn't a credible plan then there's nothing to vote for. Therefore +1 respect only slightly reduces the overall negative for Trump. But then I'm a social-democrat ideologically, so none of the Republican crowd appeal to me, so they are all in the negative from my perspective.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Well at least we know the types of people who support this guy, and it's certainly not surprising to find out they are not well-educated.

"He is strongest among Republicans who are less affluent, less educated and less likely to turn out to vote. His very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats. It’s a coalition that’s concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North, according to data provided to The Upshot by Civis Analytics, a Democratic data firm."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/upshot/donald-trumps-strongest-supporters-a-certain-kind-of-democrat.html




So many mad people.....



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McDonaldsGuy said:
KungKras said:

He was definitely the driving force behing the Bush administration.

Nah, that's Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Doug Feith, etc. etc. Not Cheney.

Who are those people?



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To Trump, booing is cheering. lol



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The funny part is the stacking that was done at that debate.



Trump is a marketing genius. Remember, this guy actually ran a billion dollar company. He knows causing controversy will gain him votes.



Since Jeb Bush is straight garbage along with the rest of the establishment it was an easy victory for Trump ...

I consider political correctness and politicians to be bloatware's ...

I don't agree with Trump on many things but at least he knows how to cut the BS and the crap so that's enough to write a note in my book to back him ...