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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
MohammadBadir said:
Islam endorses and encourages knowledge and science. Case in point, algebra and algrothims! :>

 

Just because a scientific discovery happens to take place in a region where a certain religion is prevalent, that doesn't mean the religion should take credit for it. For example, I'd never say that Christianity is responsible for the first airplane.

Also, I find it hard to believe that a society that encourages knowledge and science would treat women the way that they are treated in countries where Islamic law is in effect.

Well it was sorta religiously motivated.

and Don't be. A lot don't pray, fight a lot, and do a bunch of other things that Islam forbids :S



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Not to mention that in the US, every religious sect pays 0% taxes on their income.

When I was a child, maybe 4 or 5, my dad (who is a heavily religious follower) told me that there was a wise and powerful god somewhere out there, and he loves me and sees everything.

My very first thought was "there's something wrong with my dad"
This is before I understood what crazy was, or dumb, or anything like that. I thought everyone was the same as me.
But something clearly felt off, I felt this like vibration, like a sound wave interferring with normal sound.

Ever since that time, I've been very good at feeling a person's mental state.



FunFan said:
Crazy people will be crazy regardless. Religion at worst is a scapegoat and if it didn't exist it wouldn't stop crazy people from being crazy. Crazy people will always find a reason to be crazy.

It takes religion to make a moral person do something immoral.



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KungKras said:
FunFan said:
Crazy people will be crazy regardless. Religion at worst is a scapegoat and if it didn't exist it wouldn't stop crazy people from being crazy. Crazy people will always find a reason to be crazy.

It takes religion to make a moral person do something immoral.

Or vice versa. The choice is on the person.





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You point out a lot of facts that can't be argued. Religion has been like the act of the devil whether it's Christianity or islam. Just so much bad has happened.

But it's also done and does a lot of good. If you walk into my local church all you will ever hear is the priest telling the congregation to be nice to others, generous, charitable, forgiving etc etc etc.

I no longer attend but I promise you the people who walk in and out of that church are much better people than you're average person from the community. The community is full of people who are greedy, selfish and driven by money. Corruption, drink and drugs problems are huge. If everyone of the 20k people in my area acted like the 3/4k who attend church the community would be a much better and safer place.

So yes I agree religion has been the devil's work but it's been abused by the people in power. Now that it can no longer be abused, religions like Christianity do a lot of good.

It still needs major reform or it will become utterly irrelevant. Things like not encouraging condoms, medical abortions, divorce etc should be allowed.

And priests should be allowed get married and have families. I believe that's one major reason there were so many pedos in the Catholic Church. It's just so against the human body not to be allowed have sex or orgasm.



I totally agree with you Rol.

Religion is 100% a scam. No doubt about that.

But someone wanting despite everything to believe their own benevolant God, is completely understandable. Its a wish to want to believe so, and i can't condemn it in that form, because lets face it... reality is cruel.

But religion is a tool, created by men, to be used by some men to control other men. There is little positive about it. Also, evolution has been proved, so their God is absolutely false, though i'm sure they will just fix "the books" to try and counter that eventually.

Religion is as sneaky and maleable as a snake afterall. Their books can be interpreted in a million ways because they are vague.



Nem said:

But religion is a tool, created by men, to be used by some men to control other men. There is little positive about it. Also, evolution has been proved, so their God is absolutely false, though i'm sure they will just fix "the books" to try and counter that eventually.

Theistic evolution says hi.

Also, religion is not the devil's work. Rol's attempts at modship are. =p





MTZehvor said:
Nem said:

But religion is a tool, created by men, to be used by some men to control other men. There is little positive about it. Also, evolution has been proved, so their God is absolutely false, though i'm sure they will just fix "the books" to try and counter that eventually.

Theistic evolution says hi.

Also, religion is not the devil's work. Rol's attempts at modship are. =p



Haha... i expected as much. ^^

Its the best scam ever.





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