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Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates

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FragilE^ said:
Its a fictional story, with fictional characters in a fictional world. Why does anything matter at all?

Even if they all expressed disgust for homosexuals and made a drug to *save* a character, who cares?! It reflects on the people in the game, the fictional characters, not anyone else. I just don't understand what they're thinking when they do things like this.

 

I like this post. Fictional stories are that, fiction. Even if they hide some kind of real twisted agenda, they're still fiction. It shouldn't matter what subject it is or how the game choses to depict it.



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FragilE^ said:
Its a fictional story, with fictional characters in a fictional world. Why does anything matter at all?

Even if they all expressed disgust for homosexuals and made a drug to *save* a character, who cares?! It reflects on the people in the game, the fictional characters, not anyone else. I just don't understand what they're thinking when they do things like this.

Because, and this may be hard to believe, fiction does not exist inside a bubble. It exists within culture and business, and most of modern western culture sees giving a player the agency to borderline date-rape someone out of their natural born sexual orientaion to be extremely creepy. Condoning that kind of gameplay is bad for PR and it's bad for sales. You know what's bad for neither. Localizing it out.



Well, this is new.

Read.

This is not acceptable. Nintendo continues to censor and decide what you as a consumer gets to see. They've been doing this for decades and also region locking "please understand it takes time...". I would have thought with iwata being gone things would change....guess not.



elektranine said:
This is not acceptable. Nintendo continues to censor and decide what you as a consumer gets to see. They've been doing this for decades and also region locking "please understand it takes time...". I would have thought with iwata being gone things would change....guess not.

 


Game probably would have been upped to M-rated with a segment about sexual themes/drug references, which could potentially affect sales.



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hershel_layton said:
We wouldn't have to worry if liberals would stop getting OFFENDED OVER EVERYTHING!

Or Japanese devs could have a backbone... When conservative media launched an attack on video game violence, western devs didn't budge.





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Lets be honest people, this is a touchy subject. You can't blame Nintendo for removing it.



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Eh, it'll only be a big deal if it impacts on the story. To see that we'll have to wait until it comes out, rather than rushing to rash decisions.



 

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Mr Puggsly said:
Lets be honest people, this is a touchy subject. You can't blame Nintendo for removing it.

Yep ,  also it doesn't do there image any good after all we see many people talking about how they like Nintendo for the fact that they are in the main  family freindly.

The question is why didn't they cut it from the Japanese release that way they have no problem ,now it makes them look like they are two faced.

 





teigaga said:
hershel_layton said:
We wouldn't have to worry if liberals would stop getting OFFENDED OVER EVERYTHING!

Or Japanese devs could have a backbone... When conservative media launched an attack on video game violence, western devs didn't budge.



Western Developers vs Conservative Western Media is somewhat different from Japanese Developers vs Conservative Western Media. Western Devs won't budge because they can "fight" on home turf while Japanese devs don't get that liberty. 

It goes back to the whole "what's acceptable in the East isn't always acceptable in the West" situation so they have to make some precautionary edits, which may or may not be executed properly. Not only that but don't forget the ESRB ratings and CERO ratings are significantly different, which could possibly hinder sales to a degree.





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spemanig said:
FragilE^ said:
Its a fictional story, with fictional characters in a fictional world. Why does anything matter at all?

Even if they all expressed disgust for homosexuals and made a drug to *save* a character, who cares?! It reflects on the people in the game, the fictional characters, not anyone else. I just don't understand what they're thinking when they do things like this.

Because, and this may be hard to believe, fiction does not exist inside a bubble. It exists within culture and business, and most of modern western culture sees giving a player the agency to borderline date-rape someone out of their natural born sexual orientaion to be extremely creepy. Condoning that kind of gameplay is bad for PR and it's bad for sales. You know what's bad for neither. Localizing it out.

Yet we routinely murder, steal, desecrate and fornicate in games and most modern western culture thinks that extremely creepy.

 

Movies, Television, books, comics and every other media goes far beyond videogames in depicting "creepy" stuff. This support conversation is child's play stuff and videogames will continue to be considered child's toys everytime a silly issue like this raises a huge controversy.