The thumbs down/up system | |||
| Is abused and should be only thumb up | 15 | 23.44% | |
| Is abused and should be given as privilege | 4 | 6.25% | |
| Is abused and those who a... | 8 | 12.50% | |
| Is what it is, and reflec... | 37 | 57.81% | |
| Total: | 64 | ||
If they want to change it, they can but I generally don't care about it much. The world is full of irrational people. There's no getting around it. It is unfair that your comment is seen as a "bad" opinion if you get downvoted. I literally posted nothing but praise for the small gains that Wii U made but my comment was below the threshold. It's sad but wieners like them wouldn't dare come to the forums.
Well, people can disagree with you.
If you let it get to you, you might aswell quit the internet. Remember that votes, up or down don't equal beeing right or wrong.
With that said... i don't see a reason to have down votes. There should be a report function for trolls though.
Bruh. It's a virtual dislike. Why do you care.
No matter what, if you say anything that comes off in anyway as negative about someone's favorite company there are always going to be those people that will downvote it just out of pure fanboyism and rage anyway.
| padib said: I want to raise an issue in the comments section which makes it really unpleasant to post. It appears that some people make it a game to thumb down comments that say something valid based on their dislike for a user. I have come to that conclusion because I have stated the same exact thing as another person, but because I am perceived as negative my comment is voted down. Here is a perfect example: This article talks about how the PS3 and Xbox360, together, fair against the PS4 and Xbox One. It is more than obvious from the graph that the PS4 and Xbox One have sold much faster, much sooner, and it is very likely that the sales are thus front-loaded and will be in a very different curve going forward as compared to last gen. Thus, I commented that this gen is much more front-loaded. Perhaps someone might think: "It's front-loaded but that's only part of the answer. It will also have great legs." In which case, fair, my answer is not complete. However, how does that warrant a thumbs-down? At worst no vote, answer is valid but incomplete. But thumbs down? It has nothing to do with what was commented but with who commented. The reply, which was thumbed up, says that what I said is possibly true. I thumbed it up, personally, because it was a fair answer. And I also agree with it. The sales will be high, but it will look like a nose-dive compared to the monstrous early sales. So the reply gets 3 votes up, despite basically agreeing with me, it would seem because this poster is favorable to Playstation.
Out of annoyance I voted myself down, which I often do to, to emphasize how moronic I find those down-thumbers to be. Bottom line is that I think that some people have an undeserved right to vote down. Perhaps the voting system should only be granted to ambassadors, or to people who earned the right to use the voting system. This is my suggestion, but ultimately my point is that there is an abuse of the thumb voting system. What do you people think? (For another example of failed downvote/upvote behavior, see article http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262747/best-playstation-4-game-of-2015/, shikamo comment and replies) |
I think the system is perfect, I've said it many times if you see a comment with 0 votes on it, it means one of two things, the community doesn't think much of it or the community is in general split on the matter down the middle, giving a middle of the road view, either way the comment can be taken to be generally a middle of the road acceptable comment.
If something ends up getting thumbed down by 5 or more people it is because the users of this site are voting with clicks that the comment is not the views that they want vgchartz to represent, as such new viewers coming to this site do not see our articles with loads of +1'd comments about how much a spambots sister in laws work mate earns at their job from home... because we as a community have a system which we used to bash those shit spam comments out of sight, also if someone comes along with something which is again going to be disagree'd with by a lot of the forum users, as a democracy the system is in place to cripple that comment and push it away, take it as a form of community moderation. Like others have said, the n4g system is the same except that after a certain number of red thumbs you lose the ability to comment a certain number of times.
Also if something is either useful or a relevent message it gets green thumbed and pushed up, or if it is just a funny related comment, people like it, it's the first thing people see when they come here, it means once you get down to the 0's you can stop reading really, unless they were just recently posted and have yet to be voted on at all.
I see people saying that a lot of sites have moved away from this system, but the only other main place I visit uses it more or less the same as here, Imgur uses it for both images and the comments section, good/funny pics are pushed up more into the limelight and bad ones are shoved down, all comments which are good and funny are on top of those pics... and the comments whining about stuff or how the points system worked go right to the end and out of sight after a bit.
Just FYI no personal offence intended to you at all Padib, but I view each comment on articles which complains about having been given a red thumb, as spam since it's completely unrelated to anything in the article as such I literally always downvote them, including your comment earlier, I think I done around 1pm here so it would have been before you made this thread, like I said completely nothing personal against you, but when I see "oh zomg, the down vote police are here" I just downvote it outta sight because it is just website criticism and there is a place for that, which is here in the issues area. Sorry again if you thought it was someone with a personal vendetta against you or if you blamed someone else for it, I red thumbed both your first comment and the one complaining that your first comment had 1 downvote at the time.
I really hope I get accross that this wasn't meant to be annoying to you, just that I personally don't enjoy reading about downvotes on every article! Genuinely sorry if it annoyed you, was just meant to focus the comments on the subject matter.
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I don't like the thumbs up/down thing as it really is just voting whether you agree. However your post does seem to deserve a thumbs down, you make a statement with no evidence or logic to back it up and then respond claiming people are just thumbing you down because they know it is true. basically you are making a wild guess and are upset people don't agree with you. The thumbed up answer whether people agree with it or not offers an explanation for there view, Pehaps if you tried to explain your reasoning instead of just making statements of fact you might find a more positive response.
Oh crap the system is broken?
Quick post your complaint in an article and I'll downvote it to check if it works
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| padib said: I want to raise an issue in the comments section which makes it really unpleasant to post. It appears that some people make it a game to thumb down comments that say something valid based on their dislike for a user. I have come to that conclusion because I have stated the same exact thing as another person, but because I am perceived as negative my comment is voted down. Here is a perfect example: This article talks about how the PS3 and Xbox360, together, fair against the PS4 and Xbox One. It is more than obvious from the graph that the PS4 and Xbox One have sold much faster, much sooner, and it is very likely that the sales are thus front-loaded and will be in a very different curve going forward as compared to last gen. Thus, I commented that this gen is much more front-loaded. Perhaps someone might think: "It's front-loaded but that's only part of the answer. It will also have great legs." In which case, fair, my answer is not complete. However, how does that warrant a thumbs-down? At worst no vote, answer is valid but incomplete. But thumbs down? It has nothing to do with what was commented but with who commented. The reply, which was thumbed up, says that what I said is possibly true. I thumbed it up, personally, because it was a fair answer. And I also agree with it. The sales will be high, but it will look like a nose-dive compared to the monstrous early sales. So the reply gets 3 votes up, despite basically agreeing with me, it would seem because this poster is favorable to Playstation.
Out of annoyance I voted myself down, which I often do to, to emphasize how moronic I find those down-thumbers to be. Bottom line is that I think that some people have an undeserved right to vote down. Perhaps the voting system should only be granted to ambassadors, or to people who earned the right to use the voting system. This is my suggestion, but ultimately my point is that there is an abuse of the thumb voting system. What do you people think? (For another example of failed downvote/upvote behavior, see article http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262747/best-playstation-4-game-of-2015/, shikamo comment and replies) |
Couldn't the exact same be said of upvotes and the motivations as to why someone upvotes something? Neither upvotes or downvotes are being abused. They are subjective. Upvote and downvote only mean that "I agree with this" or "I don't agree with this". People are using them as the feature was intended.
pokoko said:
I'm going to assume you mean a different article because I just checked to see if it had changed and it had not. Here are some comments that were down-voted and "hidden" because they were below the threshhold: Well deserved. This game is huge in denmark imo. Its like everyone of my friends plays it. People need to stop trying to put the staff's decision down. It's simply opinion. There is no "correct answer." There is no game that "deserved" the win. Rocket league is a great candidate that went beyond expectations. Who would have that the sequel to an obscure indie game would go onto be in the hands of 9 million users (and growing)? For me personally, Rocket League surprised me more. Sure, it had help getting recognized with PS+ (That's how I initially learned of it), but having played the predecessor (after RL), to see such success off of RL and not SRPBC is quite a surprise as they're quite similar. That and I'm never surprised that a Nintendo IP does well, regardless if it is new. I see nothing wrong with those posts that they should be taken out of the discussion or hidden as though they are offensive. http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262732/break-out-sales-surprise-of-2015/ |
Indeed. I was takling about the Game of the Year article -> here.
I don't know who's lurking in any and voting on those articles, because they're all not hidden anymore. 
Regardless, I see your point. To be fair, the lowest voted posts were generally trolling, so it's not all bad even in the example.
| ReimTime said: Oh crap the system is broken? Quick post your complaint in an article and I'll downvote it to check if it works |
This made me lol, like.... a lot, actually audibly laugh too! not just internet lolling!
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I've often been surprised to find my innocuous, thought out, profanity-free comments there get down voted to heck and back. I can't begin to understand what on earth so offended those people, and I often check the comments hidden under the downvote threshold only to find that they were perfectly reasonable.
At this point I just have to assume that there's a great many whiney, sensitive tools out there who like to downvote anything they don't care for, even when it's little more than a reasoned, sober observation. It would not bother me were it not for that downvote threshold that hides the comment... Seems silly to have that.
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