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kowenicki said:
28%.

What's the point of this exactly? Large stock movements are significant. They may not be indicative of long term issues but to say large stock movements are normal or mean nothing is nonsense. Ninty and Sony may shoot back up, they may not, but there is no need to be defensive about stock movements. That's irrational and dangerous if you own the stock. Never get an emotional attachment to a stock holding.

 

Hmm, not sure how I screwed up that. 

 

"But to say large stock movements are normal is nonsense" 

Do you mean large single day drops, like Sony's 7% drop? Because obviously that isn't normal. But over the course of a year, large drops or increases like 20-30% are very normal, unless we are talking about insanely stable dividend stocks like Coca-Cola, and certain utility stocks. They certainly mean something though, but like you said, they aren't neccesarily indicative of long-term issues.

Not sure how I'm being defensive. I'm expressing genuine concerns here, I'm just doing it while spoofing the similar thread about Nintendo. I'm also trying to illustrate how easy it is to paint a negative picture if you omit certain factors from your analysis, like their image sensor business and how they've upped their forecast for their gaming division twice so far.

 

I'm not emotionally attached to Sony stock, I just think the impact of the beneficial factors outway that of the negative ones. Now, of course, I can't *know* for sure, if I knew the future I'd be playing lotto, but I feel relatively confident on my assumption.



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"Sony's stock down 22.21%"
"Still 2.3% more than Nintendo."

Yikes, Ninty.



POE said:
ThatDanishGamer said:

My impression is that the stock was stabilizing in December and even increasing up to CES while the geopolitical situation with North Korea and and the Chinese decline is effecting the entire international market in particular the Asian markets.

Sony is able to hit their FY PS4 sales target after they reached 35.9 million sold. And the only negative Sony news in recent days is the stock.

 

(Japanese Nikkei)

No man, the only positive Sony news in recent days are the sales of the PS4. Everything else is doing bad.



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DirtyP2002 said:
Ehm a strong dollar is a good thing for Japanese companies that do lots of their business in the US. They get much better margins.

 

The net impact of the strong dollar is negative for Sony because they have a lot of American Dollar denominated costs.

This is Sony's results from the last quarter they reported. As you can see, gaming's, home entertainment and sound's and especially mobile's operating income are hard hit from the Forex impact. While Devices sees a gain, and Imaging Products and Solutions also sees a miniscule gain, it's no where near enough to make it a net positive.



spemanig said:
"Sony's stock down 22.21%"
"Still 2.3% more than Nintendo."

Yikes, Ninty.

 

The 2.3 percentage points more than Ninty was in reference to yesterday's drop, not the total drop. Also it seems I made a mistake on the total drop as Kowen pointed out, it's about 28% actually.



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Teeqoz said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Ehm a strong dollar is a good thing for Japanese companies that do lots of their business in the US. They get much better margins.

 

The net impact of the strong dollar is negative for Sony because they have a lot of American Dollar denominated costs.

This is Sony's results from the last quarter they reported. As you can see, gaming's, home entertainment and sound's and especially mobile's operating income are hard hit from the Forex impact. While Devices sees a gain, and Imaging Products and Solutions also sees a miniscule gain, it's no where near enough to make it a net positive.

As most of the international trade is made in US dollars, it means that while you're technically able to make bigger profits in US, your profit margins decline everywhere else.

kowenicki said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
I wonder how long Sony keeps their toes in other industries aside from video games when most of them are irrelevant these days. Maybe someone with some actual knowledge can enlighten me but I don't think there's any other electronic divisions within the company right now that are doing well.

Thats correct. They are doing well with sensors (high volume) and other more low volume items in electronics but as far as consumer electronics are concerned not well at all.  I dont see how they ever can to be honest.  Korean and Chinese will dominate consumer electronics going forward.

Movies is declining, but music will see year on year boosts for a while yet with streaming income rising.



That's good question indeed. It's interesting to see how long will Sony stay in consumer electronics market, as with Hirai in charge the focus is on services and content. Didn't Hirai already hint a few years ago that Playstation too is eventually going to be a service.

On the content side of things, I'd still say the problem is the lack of appealing releases. 





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Time to sell some buildings! Good to see the 'anti-Sony' spin for a change. Its a great change up from the usual nintendoom.



Even Dow fell 317.90 points today. I blame China for all of this.



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Guys, it is not primarily due to strong dollar although it is a contributing factor. It is mainly due to them investing 1.3 billion in image sensor production and Iphone 6 and 6s production just slowing down. All iphone suppliers are down. As sure as it has gone down, it shall rise again.