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PS4 798 84.18%
 
XB1 150 15.82%
 
Total:948
Sharpryno said:
Azuren said:
AsGryffynn said:
Shiken said:

 

Thing is though, the PS4 has so much more to offer that your point is kinda irrelevant, at least how you worded it.  I mean if I say I want Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Ratchet, SFV, The Last Guardian, and No Mans Sky but fk the JRPGs (this is only an example, as I like JRPGs) and on X1 I want Gears 4, Recore (which we still know nothing about), Crackdown 3 and Quantum Break then the PS4 still wins.

 

This is why it is good to have more releases overall catering to many tastes.  A mere fraction of any combonation based  on personal taste from the PS4 exclusive library  in comparison to the entire X1 exclusive offering will usually  result in PS4 winning everytime in 2016.  There are exceptions sure, but this year will be very one sided in most cases in favor of PS4.  Just sayin. ;)

 

BTW I am not attacking your post.  I like my X1, but I just felt like making this point and yours happend to be the perfect one to quote a reply to.  =P

Problem is, sometimes some value the execution over the amount of games...



Except the average Metacritic score for PS4 exclusives is higher than that of the average score of XB1 exclusives. So it's not just quantity, it's also quality. 

Man, thats as lame as thinking a movie winning Best Picture having a lower rottentomatoes score than another isn't deserving.  



Except this isn't a crowd-rating system, it's a rating aggregate system that includes a crowd rating system. That means it's a bunch of reviews, including bad reviews. What this means is, on average, PlayStation exclusives get better scores on reviews. And since the only other thing we have to go on is "he said/she said" nonsense, this becomes the only fair way to judge things objectively.

 

Oh, but I guess it isn't fair and isn't objective because it means the XB1 has fewer and, on average, lesser games than PS4. So instead, you look for information elsewhere in hopes of confirming your belief. You're doing things backwards: facts arise from evidence, you don't make evidence to support facts. 





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AsGryffynn said:
Azuren said:
AsGryffynn said:
Shiken said:

 

Thing is though, the PS4 has so much more to offer that your point is kinda irrelevant, at least how you worded it.  I mean if I say I want Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Ratchet, SFV, The Last Guardian, and No Mans Sky but fk the JRPGs (this is only an example, as I like JRPGs) and on X1 I want Gears 4, Recore (which we still know nothing about), Crackdown 3 and Quantum Break then the PS4 still wins.

 

This is why it is good to have more releases overall catering to many tastes.  A mere fraction of any combonation based  on personal taste from the PS4 exclusive library  in comparison to the entire X1 exclusive offering will usually  result in PS4 winning everytime in 2016.  There are exceptions sure, but this year will be very one sided in most cases in favor of PS4.  Just sayin. ;)

 

BTW I am not attacking your post.  I like my X1, but I just felt like making this point and yours happend to be the perfect one to quote a reply to.  =P

Problem is, sometimes some value the execution over the amount of games...



Except the average Metacritic score for PS4 exclusives is higher than that of the average score of XB1 exclusives. So it's not just quantity, it's also quality. 

I didn't even mention quality. Execution is different, not better or worse. Some traits that the critics and a lot of people see as negatives might draw in other people? The assist thing that everyone bashed? I loved it, less checkpointing...

I like Roland Emmerich movies and a lot of other people do too, they are rather low on Metacritic though...

See, you say execution and quality are different, but quality would include the execution as part of the reviews. And instead of giving an example or explanation of how execution and quality are different, you go off on a tangent about how sometimes the things that reviewers bash are things you like. 

 

And we're not discussing movies. Movies are a different medium that requires zero input from the viewers, whereas games cannot advance without it. Games also require degrees of skill, understanding, reasoning, and hand-eye-coordination.





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Azuren said:
Sharpryno said:

Man, thats as lame as thinking a movie winning Best Picture having a lower rottentomatoes score than another isn't deserving.  



Except this isn't a crowd-rating system, it's a rating aggregate system that includes a crowd rating system. That means it's a bunch of reviews, including bad reviews. What this means is, on average, PlayStation exclusives get better scores on reviews. And since the only other thing we have to go on is "he said/she said" nonsense, this becomes the only fair way to judge things objectively.

 

Oh, but I guess it isn't fair and isn't objective because it means the XB1 has fewer and, on average, lesser games than PS4. So instead, you look for information elsewhere in hopes of confirming your belief. You're doing things backwards: facts arise from evidence, you don't make evidence to support facts. 



They are the same thing.  Approved reviewers get to submit a review and score (hint: you can see the average review score on metacritic).  You confuse yourself with your own words pretty easily.   4 point different on metacritic means nothing to me, I guess it means everything to you.  I never stated an argument other than the 360 controller is shit compared to XB1.  

There is not one exclusive the ps4 has had since release that has made me go out and buy the console. That will be Uncharted 4.  Opinions bro.  There are multiple exclusives on XB1 that I enjoyed.  Mostly play on PC anyways.  So not sure what you trying to prove, mate. 





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Sharpryno said:
Azuren said:

Except this isn't a crowd-rating system, it's a rating aggregate system that includes a crowd rating system. That means it's a bunch of reviews, including bad reviews. What this means is, on average, PlayStation exclusives get better scores on reviews. And since the only other thing we have to go on is "he said/she said" nonsense, this becomes the only fair way to judge things objectively.

 

Oh, but I guess it isn't fair and isn't objective because it means the XB1 has fewer and, on average, lesser games than PS4. So instead, you look for information elsewhere in hopes of confirming your belief. You're doing things backwards: facts arise from evidence, you don't make evidence to support facts. 



They are the same thing.  Approved reviewers get to submit a review and score (hint: you can see the average review score on metacritic).  You confuse yourself with your own words pretty easily.   4 point different on metacritic means nothing to me, I guess it means everything to you.  I never stated an argument other than the 360 controller is shit compared to XB1.  

There is not one exclusive the ps4 has had since release that has made me go out and buy the console. That will be Uncharted 4.  Opinions bro.  There are multiple exclusives on XB1 that I enjoyed.  Mostly play on PC anyways.  So not sure what you trying to prove, mate. 



 

Playstation 4, had more Exclusives, more Well Rated Exclusives, and Run Multiplataform Better, so this is just your Opinion, This Year Microsoft, will Release only 2 Exclusives for Xbox One, made by Their Studios, while Playstation 4, will Release 8 Games made by their Studios (Without Counting Delays for Both the System),  Nearly all the games that Microsoft, will  Release are also on PC, because now is More Expensive to have a Fully Exclusive because of the Gap Between Playstation 4, and Xbox One,  Microsoft, just buy games from Third Party, and dont Own their Own IPs.



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No Final Fantasy VII remake?

Anyways, I'd say PS4 by leaps and bounds.



KManX89 said:
No Final Fantasy VII remake?

Anyways, I'd say PS4 by leaps and bounds.

It's not coming in 2016.





Azuren said:
Sharpryno said:

Man, thats as lame as thinking a movie winning Best Picture having a lower rottentomatoes score than another isn't deserving.  



Except this isn't a crowd-rating system, it's a rating aggregate system that includes a crowd rating system. That means it's a bunch of reviews, including bad reviews. What this means is, on average, PlayStation exclusives get better scores on reviews. And since the only other thing we have to go on is "he said/she said" nonsense, this becomes the only fair way to judge things objectively.

 

Oh, but I guess it isn't fair and isn't objective because it means the XB1 has fewer and, on average, lesser games than PS4. So instead, you look for information elsewhere in hopes of confirming your belief. You're doing things backwards: facts arise from evidence, you don't make evidence to support facts. 



How in the world do I have to use evidence to support my personal enjoyment of a kind of games? Ratings aren't the end it all, or do I have to bring up a long list of stuff critics and the crowd hated that other people loved to bits. A little thing regarding critics, they all judge the games using their opinions.

Unless you're trying to tell me opinions also have to use evidence or facts, then that's a long way off... since I never implied I was saying a fact.

Azuren said:
AsGryffynn said:

I didn't even mention quality. Execution is different, not better or worse. Some traits that the critics and a lot of people see as negatives might draw in other people? The assist thing that everyone bashed? I loved it, less checkpointing...

I like Roland Emmerich movies and a lot of other people do too, they are rather low on Metacritic though...

See, you say execution and quality are different, but quality would include the execution as part of the reviews. And instead of giving an example or explanation of how execution and quality are different, you go off on a tangent about how sometimes the things that reviewers bash are things you like. 

 

And we're not discussing movies. Movies are a different medium that requires zero input from the viewers, whereas games cannot advance without it. Games also require degrees of skill, understanding, reasoning, and hand-eye-coordination.



They are often related. However, it is not unusual for a game to have great execution and fare badly due to other things (like most XONE games do). I am not saying things reviewers bash are likable to me. Rather, stuff I like just happens to earn the hatred of critics, since some of the very same devices and execution they hate are among the things I like.

And they are the same. Rating them differently doesn't imply that they aren't seen the same way. Oxymoron? Yes, but it proves that I am right thanks to one thing and one thing alone... in either, the reviewers views might conflict with each other, as not every reviewer is the same. If a story has 5 good scores and 6 bad ones, it's bad according to most, but there are still people who will read that story...

Long story short... I might like the game specifically for things that the reviewers burnt it... I don't have to use facts to back up my personal opinion. I like the current lineup for the XONE more than I like the current lineup for the PS4. I don't have to justify this since I just plain don't like the way the PS4 games do things, and I am talking of all of those I am interested on. They might have more games, but none of them have the quirks that allow me to enjoy the XONE games even though they are less...

This is what I hate of the PS4 supporters. It seems like they are trying to have me buy a PS4... but the odds that said thing happens are approaching zero faster than I though since every post like the one above only worsens my opinion of it's community.

Agree to disagree. You aren't having a different response from me...

Swordmasterman said:
Sharpryno said:

They are the same thing.  Approved reviewers get to submit a review and score (hint: you can see the average review score on metacritic).  You confuse yourself with your own words pretty easily.   4 point different on metacritic means nothing to me, I guess it means everything to you.  I never stated an argument other than the 360 controller is shit compared to XB1.  

There is not one exclusive the ps4 has had since release that has made me go out and buy the console. That will be Uncharted 4.  Opinions bro.  There are multiple exclusives on XB1 that I enjoyed.  Mostly play on PC anyways.  So not sure what you trying to prove, mate. 



 

Playstation 4, had more Exclusives, more Well Rated Exclusives, and Run Multiplataform Better, so this is just your Opinion, This Year Microsoft, will Release only 2 Exclusives for Xbox One, made by Their Studios, while Playstation 4, will Release 8 Games made by their Studios (Without Counting Delays for Both the System),  Nearly all the games that Microsoft, will  Release are also on PC, because now is More Expensive to have a Fully Exclusive because of the Gap Between Playstation 4, and Xbox One,  Microsoft, just buy games from Third Party, and dont Own their Own IPs.

1. Don't care...

2. Don't care. I don't like how they play or look...

3. Don't care again. I am not shelling off another $300 for more pixels...

4. Yes yes it is. Mine and another 19 million people...

5. And your point is?

6. I want those two exclusives far more than I do those 8 ones... And your number is wrong... specially since it's two with the current postponed ones...

7. Yeah, but I hate PC gaming and even when I buy PC games I'll stream them to the XONE...

8. No. It's easier to port those games since they are running on the same operative system.

9. Huh?

10. If I had a dime for every time I heard that, I'd have even more money...

11. It's the opposite. Or did you not hear that Phil Spencer said that they are building up more first party games and IPs they own rather than paying for exclusives? Unless you are referring to games outsourced to other studios, but it's not that weird. Sony has done that for a while now...



AsGryffynn said:
Azuren said:

 

Playstation 4, had more Exclusives, more Well Rated Exclusives, and Run Multiplataform Better, so this is just your Opinion, This Year Microsoft, will Release only 2 Exclusives for Xbox One, made by Their Studios, while Playstation 4, will Release 8 Games made by their Studios (Without Counting Delays for Both the System),  Nearly all the games that Microsoft, will  Release are also on PC, because now is More Expensive to have a Fully Exclusive because of the Gap Between Playstation 4, and Xbox One,  Microsoft, just buy games from Third Party, and dont Own their Own IPs.

1. Don't care...

2. Don't care. I don't like how they play or look...

3. Don't care again. I am not shelling off another $300 for more pixels...

4. Yes yes it is. Mine and another 19 million people...

5. And your point is?

6. I want those two exclusives far more than I do those 8 ones... And your number is wrong... specially since it's two with the current postponed ones...

7. Yeah, but I hate PC gaming and even when I buy PC games I'll stream them to the XONE...

8. No. It's easier to port those games since they are running on the same operative system.

9. Huh?

10. If I had a dime for every time I heard that, I'd have even more money...

11. It's the opposite. Or did you not hear that Phil Spencer said that they are building up more first party games and IPs they own rather than paying for exclusives? Unless you are referring to games outsourced to other studios, but it's not that weird. Sony has done that for a while now...

Guy, The Playstation 4's Community are not trying to make your Buy a Playstation 4, for say the Truth they  Really dont care if  you Purchase a Playstation, a Xbox, a Wii U, or a Oya.

 

Second thing is that there are Not Sales numbers for Xbox One, but by the Shippment Numbers i think that is 16-17 Millions Sold, Because who Shipp less than 1/3 of What your Competitor Did, Of Course will not sell the same.

Third thing is that "Because is Easier to Port" Excuse is not the Truth, Nearly All the Games on Pc Are made first for Windows, and the Most Number of Pc Games are coming to Playstation 4, Instead of the Xbox One, only because of the Pure Desire of the Developers.

Fourth Thing, Microsoft, Dont Own Anything, They Purchased Halo, They Purchased Gears, They Purchased Minecraft, they Purchased Nearly all the games that now are Exclusives, they Really only Made Forza, as a Franchise by their own, and All the Studios that they Purchased did not Made a New Franchise Since Then.

Fifth, The People here are Pretty Quite in Their Shell, and then  you Came here and say your Taste as it was  A Rule, and You Have Knowledge that your Taste is not the Same as the Majority of the People, and You Also know that Playstation 4, is a Better machine for Games and the Only Excuse that you have when you Lose Something is "Because is my Taste", So Why in the Hell did you begin to Argue with the People, IF you already know that your Taste is less than Minority, If We could Flee from Every Discussion with the Excuse "Because is my Taste", so There would be No Reason for People to Talk With Each Other, when you Enter in a Discussion, you are Aware, that you Need to Argue with Logic Facts, that will Help to Sustain your Logic, Otherwise the People Would give Poor Excuses for Everything, and No One would Get in Anywhere, I Dont know if you Know, is that the Mankind, Have a Logic that is Follow by the Others, Try To Follow this Logic for Making your Argument, You Saying this in Every  Discussion in the Forum, is the Same that i Say that Because of "Fat Princess", the Playstation 4, is the Best System Ever, but Despite Fat Princess being one of my favorite Franchises, i Know that in a Logic term of View this would not be Enought for the Other People (the Majority) but just for Me.

 

And Last Thing, if Sony, is Supporting the Playstation 4, with 8 Fully Exclusives this year from their own Studios, and Microsoft, only with 2, this Means that Microsoft's Main Plataform is Windows, and that they dont care about the Console Market, while Sony's Main Plataform is Playstation, and that Sony, cares about the Console Market, because of that their Worst Selling Console sold more than Microsoft's Best Selling Console, and Because of  Sony's Franchises move Hardwares,  Only one of Sony's Studios already Sold more than 7 Millions of Game Software this Gen, and Most Bundled with Playstation 4, While Halo 5, Only Managed to make Xbox One, win on USA, by 30K.

 

PS: Playstation 4, is Better than Xbox One Overall, because of that is a Sucess in Each Place of the Globe, While Xbox One, is a American "Style", and Only sell well on USA, without any Global Appeal, they Will Aways lose for a Console that have Global Appeal, And For a Console that Own Their Own Franchises.





Swordmasterman said:
AsGryffynn said:

1. Don't care...

2. Don't care. I don't like how they play or look...

3. Don't care again. I am not shelling off another $300 for more pixels...

4. Yes yes it is. Mine and another 19 million people...

5. And your point is?

6. I want those two exclusives far more than I do those 8 ones... And your number is wrong... specially since it's two with the current postponed ones...

7. Yeah, but I hate PC gaming and even when I buy PC games I'll stream them to the XONE...

8. No. It's easier to port those games since they are running on the same operative system.

9. Huh?

10. If I had a dime for every time I heard that, I'd have even more money...

11. It's the opposite. Or did you not hear that Phil Spencer said that they are building up more first party games and IPs they own rather than paying for exclusives? Unless you are referring to games outsourced to other studios, but it's not that weird. Sony has done that for a while now...

Guy, The Playstation 4's Community are not trying to make your Buy a Playstation 4, for say the Truth they  Really dont care if  you Purchase a Playstation, a Xbox, a Wii U, or a Oya.

 

Second thing is that there are Not Sales numbers for Xbox One, but by the Shippment Numbers i think that is 16-17 Millions Sold, Because who Shipp less than 1/3 of What your Competitor Did, Of Course will not sell the same.

Third thing is that "Because is Easier to Port" Excuse is not the Truth, Nearly All the Games on Pc Are made first for Windows, and the Most Number of Pc Games are coming to Playstation 4, Instead of the Xbox One, only because of the Pure Desire of the Developers.

Fourth Thing, Microsoft, Dont Own Anything, They Purchased Halo, They Purchased Gears, They Purchased Minecraft, they Purchased Nearly all the games that now are Exclusives, they Really only Made Forza, as a Franchise by their own, and All the Studios that they Purchased did not Made a New Franchise Since Then.

Fifth, The People here are Pretty Quite in Their Shell, and then  you Came here and say your Taste as it was  A Rule, and You Have Knowledge that your Taste is not the Same as the Majority of the People, and You Also know that Playstation 4, is a Better machine for Games and the Only Excuse that you have when you Lose Something is "Because is my Taste", So Why in the Hell did you begin to Argue with the People, IF you already know that your Taste is less than Minority, If We could Flee from Every Discussion with the Excuse "Because is my Taste", so There would be No Reason for People to Talk With Each Other, when you Enter in a Discussion, you are Aware, that you Need to Argue with Logic Facts, that will Help to Sustain your Logic, Otherwise the People Would give Poor Excuses for Everything, and No One would Get in Anywhere, I Dont know if you Know, is that the Mankind, Have a Logic that is Follow by the Others, Try To Follow this Logic for Making your Argument, You Saying this in Every  Discussion in the Forum, is the Same that i Say that Because of "Fat Princess", the Playstation 4, is the Best System Ever, but Despite Fat Princess being one of my favorite Franchises, i Know that in a Logic term of View this would not be Enought for the Other People (the Majority) but just for Me.

 

And Last Thing, if Sony, is Supporting the Playstation 4, with 8 Fully Exclusives this year from their own Studios, and Microsoft, only with 2, this Means that Microsoft's Main Plataform is Windows, and that they dont care about the Console Market, while Sony's Main Plataform is Playstation, and that Sony, cares about the Console Market, because of that their Worst Selling Console sold more than Microsoft's Best Selling Console, and Because of  Sony's Franchises move Hardwares,  Only one of Sony's Studios already Sold more than 7 Millions of Game Software this Gen, and Most Bundled with Playstation 4, While Halo 5, Only Managed to make Xbox One, win on USA, by 30K.

 

PS: Playstation 4, is Better than Xbox One Overall, because of that is a Sucess in Each Place of the Globe, While Xbox One, is a American "Style", and Only sell well on USA, without any Global Appeal, they Will Aways lose for a Console that have Global Appeal, And For a Console that Own Their Own Franchises.



Great, but I already knew all that, so I don't understand why you are telling me... also, sales are not what says who is better, just who is more popular, and this is not a popularity contest, or at least not to those of us who are serious.

I won't even delve on your wrong points. Or perhaps I will just fast...

1. Do you have shipment numbers? Can I see your sources?

2. Perhaps since there are more games that are not seeing XONE releases? If there is a reason they aren't porting them to the XONE is that they know the game will not have a nice reception in there. Games are developed on PC, but they don't run the way they develop them. Optimization plays a big part and if they develop a game for the PS4, porting it to the XONE is a problem, whereas for PC they only rewire the game a bit and then put everything else on the consumers who will have to deal with a game that eats a lot of resources. With a PC game created with the XONE in mind, you only have to copy and paste a line of code and that's it.

Same reason you see Xbox One games on PC but not on the PS4. Yes, they are developed on PC, but they are not developed FOR PC. The porting of those games to PC is literally just exporting the game into a different file, not optimizing it for a console. If a game can run on the XONE, has a decent audience there and was developed on an open API or one that supports the XONE, it will see a XONE release, or do I have to point out that FFXV was an exclusive to Sony consoles until they announced they were using the DirectX API?

Problem is that a lot of games are in development right now and weren't configured for W10, so the only games that this applies are either games that are updated often, like most MS games or games developed AFTER devs migrated to W10...

3. In what world is this not owning them? Hell, MS confirmed they own SCALEBOUND and LOST ODYSSEY! Also, as far as I know, Naughty Dog and Sucker Punch were independent studios with their own games as well. Hypocrisy perhaps?

4. Point it out... I simply wanted to voice my opinion and hope nobody questions it. Or am I not entitled to it? I haven't forced myself on anyone. I am entering a conversation, not a discussion. I don't have to bring up facts to every single conversation I am on. If I did, conversations will simply lose anything interesting. I am not saying the XONE is the best system. I am saying it is MY best system and I don't have to justify myself by following the herd when I can simply stay away from them and watch them lose their individuality.

5. Also, your number is wrong. With Crackdown 3, Quantum Break and GOW4 you already have three, and I am not bothering in digging up the newer ones that have arrived just recently and the older ones that were delayed into this year... By the way, between the MCC and H5, 343 just hit the same number. Ironic, isn't it?

Sorry, but I don't accept "better since more people say so". I don't do popularity contests nor objective stuff. If you can't agree to relatives, then you're better off talking to the wall...