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KungKras said:
Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
duuuuuuuuude I would't read that wall of text even if you held a knife to my throat.



buuut... to answer your thread title, because they're bought into game industry propaganda and want the company to fail.

Yes fail as in take the company into new heights of wealth and power.

Litteraly hundreths of million of people would gain access to their products, given their quality titles they would sale tens of millons of them rather then the pathetic amounts they have sold on the wiiu.  

 

Lets comapre, NX after 6 months of relase at best maybe 6 million user base.  While PS4 alone will be what past 45 ? add another 15 for xbox and steam is 125.  So its nearing  200m day one Nintendo could be selling on, or what ever NX MIght be able to do maybe.

Yes lol fail, sure sure.

 


Then Sony and Microsoft should do it first if it's such a good idea.

Who sold least consoles should be first thats just logical.

PS4 is setting records i guess so is wiiu just negative ones.  





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Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
duuuuuuuuude I would't read that wall of text even if you held a knife to my throat.



buuut... to answer your thread title, because they're bought into game industry propaganda and want the company to fail.

Yes fail as in take the company into new heights of wealth and power.

Litteraly hundreths of million of people would gain access to their products, given their quality titles they would sale tens of millons of them rather then the pathetic amounts they have sold on the wiiu.  

 

Lets comapre, NX after 6 months of relase at best maybe 6 million user base.  While PS4 alone will be what past 45 ? add another 15 for xbox and steam is 125.  So its nearing  200m day one Nintendo could be selling on, or what ever NX MIght be able to do maybe.

Yes lol fail, sure sure.

 


Then Sony and Microsoft should do it first if it's such a good idea.

Who sold least consoles should be first thats just logical.

PS4 is setting records i guess so is wiiu just negative ones.  



Most companies have a first-in-first-out type of policy when it comes to layoffs. I think that's just logical. Or perhaps the integral of profits over the company's time in the industry. That's also just logical. We got all the logic in the world over here.





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FunFan said:
Is not what they think. Is what they want.

Agree. :)





I'm not saying I want Nintendo to go third party but I will never understand the mindset of, "it didn't work for SEGA so it cannot work for Nintendo." There is really no reason to assume that consistency would fall off a cliff at Nintendo the way it did at SEGA.

Now, in order to really analyze this, we'd have to list the positives and negatives of both positions. That's a daunting task, to be honest. Most people, when they discuss the possibility of Nintendo going third-party, they simply decide based on what THEY want and rationalize the logistics to support that. That's useless.

I think they'd be successful as a third party developer but I'm not quite sure that the increase in available user base would make up for the loss of a consistent revenue stream. Becoming software dependent would mean fluctuating revenue, which can be difficult without the evergreen franchises of the sort EA and Activision have. More pressure to have a consistent release schedule might result in even more series fatigue for some of their biggest IP.

It's a complex situation that would need an in depth study to document all the advantages and disadvantages.



Armour1 said:

Business common sense.

They make games, only logical to sale on as big a user base as possible. They them selves can no longer build a user base big enough to make it worth wile.

They are literally leaving billions at the table. Selling on a bigger user base also increases their franchises worth and its merchandising. Plus their hardware is always weak, that that out of the equation and the games will be better.

 

Nintendo would lose hardware/accessory revenue, lose 3rd party royalties and have to pay royalties to Sony/Microsoft which means their games would need to sell much higher and I'm not sure if many Nintendo franchises would see a huge increase in sales by being on PS/XB anyway. Most Nintendo games are either family/kid/casual friendly titles (this audience isn't really known to be on PS/XB) or rather niche titles which sell to a small but dedicated fanbase.



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SpokenTruth said:
Armour1 said:

Who sold least consoles should be first thats just logical.

PS4 is setting records i guess so is wiiu just negative ones.  



Then why didn't Sony and MS abandon hardware and join Nintendo on Wii and DS?  Your logic dictates they should.



PS3 sold 80+ million not stuggled to 13m like Nintendo with the wiiu, a bit of a difference there.  And truthfully Sony sucks at making handheld games, what benefit would that be to them to go the ds route ?  Especially Since day one their profits came from 3rd party sales on their platform.  

None of you have a even remotly decent counter argument to Nintrendo quality software on 200million strong and only growing bigger and stronger user base.  

 





Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
duuuuuuuuude I would't read that wall of text even if you held a knife to my throat.



buuut... to answer your thread title, because they're bought into game industry propaganda and want the company to fail.

Yes fail as in take the company into new heights of wealth and power.

Litteraly hundreths of million of people would gain access to their products, given their quality titles they would sale tens of millons of them rather then the pathetic amounts they have sold on the wiiu.  

 

Lets comapre, NX after 6 months of relase at best maybe 6 million user base.  While PS4 alone will be what past 45 ? add another 15 for xbox and steam is 125.  So its nearing  200m day one Nintendo could be selling on, or what ever NX MIght be able to do maybe.

Yes lol fail, sure sure.

 


Then Sony and Microsoft should do it first if it's such a good idea.

Who sold least consoles should be first thats just logical.

PS4 is setting records i guess so is wiiu just negative ones.  



 


Wii sold more than the PS3 and X360 the DS more than all of them and PSP and 3DS is selling more than the Vita and in Japan is selling more than the PS4 also PS4 is setting records guess what the Wii did too and so did the DS, so if that is the logic for Nintendo to go 3rd party Sony and MS should do it too





Then why didn't Sony and MS abandon hardware and join Nintendo on Wii and DS?  Your logic dictates they should.



 


Because the Wii is a piece of junk. It is a gimmick that sold like hotcakes to casual gamers and non gamers. Real gamers bought PS3 and 360 and are still buying them today. Where's the Wii now? Name 1 good Wii game that wasn't made by Nintendo.



Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
Armour1 said:
KungKras said:
duuuuuuuuude I would't read that wall of text even if you held a knife to my throat.



buuut... to answer your thread title, because they're bought into game industry propaganda and want the company to fail.

Yes fail as in take the company into new heights of wealth and power.

Litteraly hundreths of million of people would gain access to their products, given their quality titles they would sale tens of millons of them rather then the pathetic amounts they have sold on the wiiu.  

 

Lets comapre, NX after 6 months of relase at best maybe 6 million user base.  While PS4 alone will be what past 45 ? add another 15 for xbox and steam is 125.  So its nearing  200m day one Nintendo could be selling on, or what ever NX MIght be able to do maybe.

Yes lol fail, sure sure.

 


Then Sony and Microsoft should do it first if it's such a good idea.

Who sold least consoles should be first thats just logical.

PS4 is setting records i guess so is wiiu just negative ones.  



 

Ya, let's ignore the Nintendo device that has sold over 55 million.....



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zorg1000 said:
Armour1 said:

Business common sense.

They make games, only logical to sale on as big a user base as possible. They them selves can no longer build a user base big enough to make it worth wile.

They are literally leaving billions at the table. Selling on a bigger user base also increases their franchises worth and its merchandising. Plus their hardware is always weak, that that out of the equation and the games will be better.

 

Nintendo would lose hardware/accessory revenue, lose 3rd party royalties and have to pay royalties to Sony/Microsoft which means their games would need to sell much higher and I'm not sure if many Nintendo franchises would see a huge increase in sales by being on PS/XB anyway. Most Nintendo games are either family/kid/casual friendly titles (this audience isn't really known to be on PS/XB) or rather niche titles which sell to a small but dedicated fanbase.

 So no house hold with kids own PS or Xbox, who are you kidding.  Their sales woudld easily skyrocket going 3rd party, dont even dare bs that sales might not increase much going from the wiiu to a 200 MILLION strong user base.  

Unelss you all doubt nintendo software quality, seems many dont think they can sale to any one but hardcore ninty fans.