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hershel_layton said:
Wagram said:
I fear for this nation. All of these people are fucking insane.

 


I'm just waiting for an official to kick me out of America for no reason. While the democrats aren't exactly the smartest people ever, the Republicans are currently crazy! It's as though they're doing everything they can just to have a republican be president.

 

Feels like a WWE match that has gotten out of hand. I won't even care if I leave. America is going downhill, and there's no one that can slow it down!

I blame the loons known as the Tea Party. They have completely ruined what was left of the republican parties reputataion. 





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RadiantDanceMachine said:
Illusion said:

EDIT: I am sorry, I should have said "Authentic Christian Teaching" instead of "Authentic Christianity."  Obviously there are Christians who fail (to varying degrees) to live up to high standards established by our Lord.  I would strongly aruge, however, that a lady who drowns her baby represents such a miniscule proportion of the Christian population that it is somewhat of a "strawman" fallacy to even mention it on this thread without also mentioning the large majority of Christians who would condemn these heinous actions.

No Christian would condemn the woman who drowned her kids if they genuinely thought it was the command of god as she did. Abraham comes to mind...

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RadiantDanceMachine said:
Illusion said:

EDIT: I am sorry, I should have said "Authentic Christian Teaching" instead of "Authentic Christianity."  Obviously there are Christians who fail (to varying degrees) to live up to high standards established by our Lord.  I would strongly aruge, however, that a lady who drowns her baby represents such a miniscule proportion of the Christian population that it is somewhat of a "strawman" fallacy to even mention it on this thread without also mentioning the large majority of Christians who would condemn these heinous actions.



No Christian would condemn the woman who drowned her kids if they genuinely thought it was the command of god as she did. Abraham comes to mind...



2261: Scripture specifies the prohibition contained in the fifth commandment: "Do not slay the innocent and the righteous."61 The deliberate murder of an innocent person is gravely contrary to the dignity of the human being, to the golden rule, and to the holiness of the Creator. The law forbidding it is universally valid: it obliges each and everyone, always and everywhere.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

As a Catholic I believe that a theological statement made by the Pope in unison with the Bishops of the Catholic Church (such as the one above) forms an infallible doctrine that has the stamp of the Holy Spirit on it.  Jesus established the Catholic Church while He was on earth and it is a tenet of my faith that He granted special protection to the Church in the area of its moral teachings.  When interpreting private revelation from God, the first thing that a Catholic Spiritual Director will ask you is to see if the private revelation in anyway takes you away from Church teaching.  If it does, then that is a telltale sign that the said revelation is not from God.  In short, as a Catholic I believe that it is impossible for God to command me to kill any person and if I was ever to recieve such a sign I would feel 100% confident in knowing that this sign wasn't from God since God cannot contradict Himself.

Keep in mind that the story of Abraham was from a time long before Jesus and even the Ten Commandments when human civilization was still being formed.  Humans of that day had a radically different understanding of morality and compassion and our Lord had to communicate with them in a language that they could understand.  

Unfortnately, I do agree that scripture can and does get misinterpreted by many Christians.  The Bible was created by the Catholic Church as an educational tool for sharing God's revelation with man but it was never meant to be separated from the Catholic Church.  The Church ultimately has final authority over the interpretation of scripture the same way that the Supreme Court has ultimate say over the interpretation of the law.  It is good for us to read and know the law, but we do not ultimately get final say over what it means.  I think that this is one of the big failings in modern Christianity (especially in America).



I agree 100%. Come at me. (Unless its a secret extremist of any religion)
Will give greater understanding of the world and would be more careful.



He's pandering.

In order to win Iowa, you have to be crazy religious. It's one of the reasons Trump is having such a hard time there (no one believes he's really religious).

In 2008, Huckabee won Iowa, and in 2012, Santorum won Iowa.

It's a good strategy (to win Iowa). This is why I think Iowa should not be the first state to hold caucuses or primaries. For the GOP, the first state should be like Florida or South Carolina.



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That's ridiculous. You don't need to be a catholic to rule a country. It's just the most dumb think I've heard from a politician in years. I'm not saying that being a catholic makes you a bad politician, but it doesn't make you a good one either.