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Should the case be...

Let the 100 women get the... 90 24.13%
 
Let the 100 men get the l... 31 8.31%
 
Split the lifeboats 50/50 between the adults. 168 45.04%
 
Let everyone drown because I can't decide. 84 22.52%
 
Total:373

A more relevant example is the modern draft. In times of war, women ought to be drafted just as men. Most women would shrug at the idea which reveals the hypocrisy of common feminism.



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Maybe it's because I'm not well informed on the matter, but I don't understand why it has always been like that. If before it was the man who had full controll of the family income, wouldn't it make more sense that the father should get on the boat with the child?

I picked Let the 100 man get in option just to oppose male disposability, but honestly, I would pick an option that is not there. Get the children on first, with both of their parents, and then those without children, first come first serve law, and if that can't be followed by the chaos, then those who can get themselves on a boat should be on a boat..

If someone tries to avoid helping myself in saving my own life for some traditionalist "old fashioned" BS, that someone will get a quick K.O beating.

I find really strange that a man saving his own life instead of saving a woman's is considered shameful. My life isn't worth less nor I owe it to some random woman just because I'm a male.



ganoncrotch said:
Darwinianevolution said:
The "women and children first" rule is not because women have privilege over men. That rule is there to guarantee all kids are safe and with at least one of their parents. If a kid only has a father, that man can go with his child.

At least, that is how I interpret this :P


What if a father is on a cruise with 2 of his kids? Can he nominate a male friend to mind his other child or must they be cared for by a woman?

I don't know. This rule is very old, probably from before the XIX century, when civilian travels started to become common. The mother had a bigger rol in the education of the children than it does nowadays (when both the mother and the father educate the children equally, because both are expected to work outside the house), so it made sense to choose the mother over the father.



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Let everyone drown because I can't decide. hahaha.... On serious note, the "old fashion" reason is that kids in the past stick close to the mother is because infants/babies need breast milk and are thought to be more qualified to help the children.



Darwinianevolution said:
ganoncrotch said:
Darwinianevolution said:
The "women and children first" rule is not because women have privilege over men. That rule is there to guarantee all kids are safe and with at least one of their parents. If a kid only has a father, that man can go with his child.

At least, that is how I interpret this :P


What if a father is on a cruise with 2 of his kids? Can he nominate a male friend to mind his other child or must they be cared for by a woman?

I don't know. This rule is very old, probably from before the XIX century, when civilian travels started to become common. The mother had a bigger rol in the education of the children than it does nowadays (when both the mother and the father educate the children equally, because both are expected to work outside the house), so it made sense to choose the mother over the father.


I wonder how the people who bang a drum saying that Women get paid (not sure was it 3 or 7 cents per dollar) less than Men in the same line of work, would react when asked if they thought the Father would then be the better save since he could provide more income to mind the child if raising it alone?



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nanorazor said:

Let everyone drown because I can't decide. hahaha.... On serious note, the "old fashion" reason is that kids in the past stick close to the mother is because infants/babies need breast milk and are thought to be more qualified to help the children.

The bold is true only in the same era when a woman is not allowed to Vote/Work or Hold her own door open. Times changed yo, and single dads make for some perfectly raised kids. :)



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my humble opinion.

dont be a dick, and do whats right. its that simple.



bananaking21 said:
my humble opinion.

dont be a dick, and do whats right. its that simple.


Yeah if everyone stopped to consider what they have lived and to live for it would be amazing, like I said in my case having lived a very enjoyable 32 years I would happily offer up a spot to survive for a younger person who wasn't suffering an illness which could lead them into trouble on a liferaft anyway. But.. I'm not sure a lot of people would actually do this in the moment.



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I'm not sure why everyone immediate response is "Those damn feminists want more privileges!" when it's not the women that decided this rule all those years ago. It's not because women were 'more privileged' by any means. It's because, back in the days this rule was conceived, people (men and women alike) believed that women were more helpless and needed more protection than men.



Brii said:
I'm not sure why everyone immediate response is "Those damn feminists want more privileges!" when it's not the women that decided this rule all those years ago. It's not because women were 'more privileged' by any means. It's because, back in the days this rule was conceived, people (men and women alike) believed that women were more helpless and needed more protection than men.


No that alone. Chivalry. Men were (and still somewhat are) expected to help women even at the cost of their own integrity, otherwise they weren't "real men".