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Ali_16x said:
Just wondering for everyone that is saying he went overboard, how would you have dealt with the situation if the girl did not get out of the room?


call her parents?



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Wow there are some....interesting comments in this thread to say the least. No matter how you say it...in my opinion she is a female and a kid. This was complete over kill to be used on a female child/kid. So the situation was that bad to where a cop had to be called? And only one at that...what about the girls parents?

And as a parent especially a father...how could you POSSIBLY in any form be okay with this? Especially if it was your own child? And also who cares about the race of the girl? It is overkill no matter what. Wow.....not sure how anyone can see this video and feel it is okay.



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Toxy said:
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If at the age of 15-16 you haven't learnt proper manners and respect for authority or others, odds are that regular teachings won't work. As someone who lives in Australia, let me tell you that an overly tolerant police or judiciary system fails. 


I doubt you were Mr Perfect when you were 15-16 years old. There is a difference between having bad manners, rebelling, respecting authority etc. 

If you disrespect someone's request, that does not give them the right to throw you into an object and then hurl you across the room. This is not proper discipline. It is also a breach of authority, something that you seem to have ignored. You can arrest someone without using unnecessary force. I never said she should not be arrested. The force being used is over the top.

I am sure a simple arrest would have sent the message. You on the other hand seem to support unnecessary violence, which means you clearly have not learned good manners yourself if you think that someone who likely has not broken any laws should be dealt with in such a manner. Especially given that Australia is country that takes pride in giving people "A fair go". Abusing teenagers is not going to fix any societal issues, in fact it will create more issues because it will cause more people to resent authority. 

If you were arrested, would you prefer the officer to still respect you as a human, arrest you without inflicting any harm, telling you your rights and taking you to the station for further questioning. Or would you prefer the officer to abuse you, and through you into the ground in a public place, causing further humiliation. 

I mean, humiliating someone and infringing upon their freedom is a breach of human rights. Generally there are exceptions to this rule, like if you were to murder, steal etc. This student on the otherhand just refused to do as she was told for the most part. That hardly seems like it is necessary to infringe her rights as a human. Does the crime meet the punishment?

 

However you have implied, that using excessive force on a minor will fix society. Screw murder and those other serious crimes, if a teenager is being rebellious, they ought to be handled with no care, right?


The teacher had to call the cops! and then they were there she ignored their request! how come she is a victim? Dude, crazy kids are bringing guns to schools and killing everyone in there, no wonder teacher reached the point where they call the police instead of the parent, and no wander the officer treated her like an adult, with the recent events in US schools and so many kids with guns people are bypassing protocols when it comes to any type of crisis withing the school. I think there were better ways for the officer to handle the situation, but the girl is not an innocent victim, too much has had hapen in US in schools in recent years.



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justiceiro said:
Ali_16x said:
Just wondering for everyone that is saying he went overboard, how would you have dealt with the situation if the girl did not get out of the room?


call her parents?


How do you know that was not done? what if that has not work out in the past, what if the reason she does not respect authorities start with her not respecting her parents at all?



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justiceiro said:
Ali_16x said:
Just wondering for everyone that is saying he went overboard, how would you have dealt with the situation if the girl did not get out of the room?


call her parents?

But then the police officer wouldn't have the chance to discharge his pent-up anger or issues on a teenager. And that's not how they roll.

Honestly, I'm extremely tired of this abuse of power from the authority even if the girl was to blame (and she was!). All this excessive violence feels like the state gives them carte blanche to act however the hell they want against anyone, without suffering the consequences of collateral damage because they're the police and their security comes first before the citizen.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
Wow there are some....interesting comments in this thread to say the least. No matter how you say it...in my opinion she is a female and a kid. This was complete over kill to be used on a female child/kid. So the situation was that bad to where a cop had to be called? And only one at that...what about the girls parents?

And as a parent especially a father...how could you POSSIBLY in any form be okay with this? Especially if it was your own child? And also who cares about the race of the girl? It is overkill no matter what. Wow.....not sure how anyone can see this video and feel it is okay.


you are forgetting the context in which this is happening, the guys that perpetrated the colombine masacre were 17 and 18, that means one of them was a kid, people in the US are getting paraniod about any type of crisis going on in a school, the girl here should have done what the officer told her, schools are becoming like airports in US, anything can scalate quickly since there are other inocent children around, so no one is accepting any tipe of rebelilous behaviour. Note that I think that the officer could have manage the situation better, but the girl is not a victim, she created a situation in wich the teacher was scare enough to call the police, and the policeman went to a school, bad combination to start not doing what you are told.



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radha said:


you are forgetting the context in which this is happening, the guys that perpetrated the colombine masacre were 17 and 18, that means one of them was a kid, people in the US are getting paraniod about any type of crisis going on in a school, the girl here should have done what the officer told her, schools are becoming like airports in US, anything can scalate quickly since there are other inocent children around, so no one is accepting any tipe of rebelilous behaviour. Note that I think that the officer could have manage the situation better, but the girl is not a victim, she created a situation in wich the teacher was scare enough to call the police, and the policeman went to a school, bad combination to start not doing what you are told.

So because there have been cases where "kids" have done some horrible things that justifies these actions? Am I saying the girl was in the right....not at all....BUT this situation was handled VERY poorly. No way that was called for in any form to get a misbehaving student out of the class room. I have seen fights broken up in high school with less force. So to first put the arm around her neck(chokehold style), then flip her over IN THE DESK then snatch her out of the desk and fling her across the room like a rag doll is unacceptable for an office of the law. This may have been necessary in other instances but not in this one...not at all. 



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1st: She didn't got hurt.
2nd: Police officer achieved what was asked of him to do, remove the stundent from class.
3rd: Student is resisting.

I dont think police officer should be fired, police should just do a PR spin and put officer on another school and be done. This vitimism of today's society is ridiculous people.



Not knowing the whole story, people cannot think they can get away with anything just because there might be a public outcry. Could the cop have handled it better, maybe. Could all of this have been prevented if the child wasn't misbehaving, YES. Thinks about the source of the problem before you blame the results.



I'm not condoning any wrong doing because as I said in an earlier post I don't know the whole story. So put yourself in this situation whether you know the whole story or not: What what YOU have done that would have GUARANTEED positive results?