mZuzek said:
Well I don't recall Nintendo ever stating things like that in the past that didn't turn out to mean anything. They said they were still working on Pikmin, Pikmin 4 gets announced. Miyamoto said he wanted a Star Fox on the Wii U, we're getting a Star Fox on the Wii U. They said they were discussing ideas for both 2D and 3D Metroid, we're getting a (sort of) 3D Metroid.
About you though, I think the debate is pretty much over with that bold statement. This is me everytime I'm reading one of your posts:
In fact, now that I think about it, you do remind me a lot of Gligar13vids. Don't take it as a compliment.
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Don't understand the connection to that NDT image. My quotes do prove me right, but that image is sarcastically calling me a badass? How does that end the debate? "Woah, he thinks he's soo cool just because he can correctly read and interpret quotes all the time." What?
My response was specifically to someone thinking that a quote near blatantly denying the then current developemental existance of MP4 was just Tanabe "trying to keep secrets," then you responded that I'm ignoring some mystical quote that somehow contradicts the Tanabe quote in a dubious attempt make it "convenient for my arguement." Then, when I bring up that exact quote and point out that I am not only aware of that quote, but that it doesn't at all imply that they've been working on a core game like MP4 and therefore does not count as an example for me "manipulating" anything, you dial back to say that they were probably just referring to Federation Force, "but still."
You say that Nintendo hasn't said things like that in the past that didn't turn out to mean something, something I based my entire original post you felt compelled to respond to on, except for when Tanabe explicitely implied that MP4 wasn't in developement yet as of that interview by clearly stating that they'd have to start "now" for the game to be out years into the NX, which is what spawned the discussion in the first place. You don't "recall" that, do you? That doesn't mean anything, does it? Sure, I'm the one forgetting things because its "convenient for my argument."
But me saying my quotes prove me right, when they do in fact prove me right, somehow ends the debate in your favor because of what, exactly? Or are you implying that I have an "insane ego" because I'm actually willing to be thorough in backing up my arguments? That having confidence in being correct after going into painstaking detail as to why I think I am is the same as being "insanely egotistical" and "considering all disagreeing parties stupid?" Is that the debate you're referring to?
Tell me, please, if it would instead be of more proper debate etiquette to make an argument, wait for someone to bring up a counter argument as someone always will, and then not try to prove you're right "on absolutely everything" out of fear of being labeled an ego maniac?
The new, improved, me: "2+2=4."
Somebody else: "No, 2+2=3."
The new, improved, me: "I guess we'll agree to disagree on this one. Don't want you thinking I'm an egotistical asshole after all, since I already proved I was right on the Earth being round this morning. Can't prove I'm right on absolutely everything, you know."
Should I roll dice on what I should and should not try and prove I'm right on? Should I try and give some opinions that I think are flat out wrong sometimes, just so that I can have a better right/wrong ratio, as opposed to what I thought everyone did, which is to only give an opinion and an argument on things we think we can back up? No, I'm fine with you sarcastically thinking I'm a badass instead.
I don't even know who that Gligar guy is, so I can't really take it as anything. Except that it's clearly not a compliment, as you've kindly hinted at.
But we're off topic, now.
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OT: Federation Force isn't a great way to celebrate Metroid's 30th anniverary, but as far as I'm concerned, it's better than a Mario level editor.
